P1 hours after skills test but before PPL issues.

[BillieBob]

If it is final license ride, in EASA land you are grounded right after your ride until you get your part.FCL in hand. With passing license check ride, you are no longer in training

So far as the UK is concerned at least, that is total poppycock! You may not be undergoing training for the issue of a licence but that is not what the relevant legislation says - you only need to be "undergoing flying training".

It is perfectly acceptable for an individual to undertake, for example, dual or solo refresher training (or, indeed, initial training for certain other qualifications) while awaiting receipt of the licence. The only requirement is that the solo training is "authorised and supervised by a flight instructor".

Other member states may have further restrictions written into their respective national legislation but there is nothing in the EASA Aircrew Regulation that prevents an individual from choosing to undergo further training (either dual or solo) while awaiting licence issue.

[Loggerheads]

Originally Posted by foxmoth

I would suspect very few!

Maybe so, however low the number I have always been of the belief it is sufficiently high enough, with rejections being significantly serious, to warrant not taking the risk until all is checked.

The backlash from an incident where it was found the new PPL wasn't actually a new PPL may not be considered worth the risk.

Without the necessary information I don't feel I can be as definitive in my views as some.

[foxmoth]

Personally I doubt that it is that high, and those that there are most will not have actually done the test with an examiner but forged all the paperwork - otherwise it is unlikely they will pass anyway, add in the fact that they will be known to the school they are hiring off and still need to be supervised by an instructor until they get the license in hand I really cannot understand your concern??

[Genghis the Engineer]

I can see why a proper licence needs to be issued, and that requires checks independent of the school and examiner.

But, I really can't see why a temporary certificate can't be issued. Say 60 days, limited to solo flight only, while the CAA trundle through the paperwork. In fact wasn't something like that proposed to the red tape challenge.

The risks would be minimal, and the benefits obvious.

G

[Loggerheads]

Originally Posted by foxmoth

I really cannot understand your concern??

Foxmoth, I don't have any concern, none whatsoever. I'm merely offering what I believe is the thinking behind the rule as it is. In fact I don't believe I voiced support for the present system?