Is this an OK landing now?
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Is this an OK landing now?
Stall horn for about 2 seconds and main gears touch down first.
What is interesting that the nose-wheel appears to hit the runway harder this way
Background to this question: flat (slightly nose-wheel) landing due to mis-trimming on final, http://www.pprune.org/private-flying...d-landing.html
What is interesting that the nose-wheel appears to hit the runway harder this way
Background to this question: flat (slightly nose-wheel) landing due to mis-trimming on final, http://www.pprune.org/private-flying...d-landing.html
Is this an OK landing now?
Although better than the previous video, this is still too flat. A Katana should touch it's mainwheels with the nosewheel much higher than that, and you should be able to hold the nosewheel off until well after the mainwheels have touched.
The Katana stall waning horns are notoriously pessimistic, and can't easily be adjusted.
Typically the stall warning should sound as soon as you raise the nose to land, (flare) continue as the mainwheels touch the ground, and then continue as you roll along, until you lower the nosewheel to the ground.
Review your target threshold speed with your instructor, and check it against the recommended speed in the POH. Make sure that you are not crossing the threshold too fast.
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It's an OK landing.
As Mach Jump said, a bit flat. The potential in a flat-ish landing is porpoising, as the aircraft still has enough potential for flight at touchdown; ie: you still have flying speed.
Need to hold off a bit longer. I get the impression the approach speed over the threshold may have been a few knots higher than optimal.
As Mach Jump said, a bit flat. The potential in a flat-ish landing is porpoising, as the aircraft still has enough potential for flight at touchdown; ie: you still have flying speed.
Need to hold off a bit longer. I get the impression the approach speed over the threshold may have been a few knots higher than optimal.
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Power for altitude, pitch for speed. Right after reducing the power and putting in the first notch of flaps near the end of the downwind try setting the power for a 500fpm descent then diligently NOT changing the power again till the flare. Then you can concentrate on the pitch for speed control and this should force you into the correct attitude ( nose proud) for the flare and not the flat "3 pointer" type touchdown in the vids.
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Thanks!
Originally Posted by Mach Jump
you should be able to hold the nosewheel off until well after the mainwheels have touched.
At the same time, I am not sure elevator authority is enough for keeping the nose wheel in the air after touch down. We did some of those landings during conversion training, stick full aft (literally in my stomach) at touchdown, yet the center of gravity pushed the nose down around the main wheels acting as rotation points. So instead of rolling with nose wheel in the air, the goal was to unload the nose wheel as far as possible during the landing roll.
Originally Posted by Mach Jump
The Katana stall waning horns are notoriously pessimistic, and can't easily be adjusted.
Originally Posted by Flyingmac
Flat landing. Rubbish.
Originally Posted by Tarq57
Need to hold off a bit longer. I get the impression the approach speed over the threshold may have been a few knots higher than optimal.
It's the holding off, which could have been longer indeed. As the nose started to rise, I heard the stall warning horn, and also sensed we started to climb/balloon, so I stopped pulling more and the a/c settled down on the runway. But I don't see ANY climb on the video recording, the main gears flew completely level with the runway. So maybe I just have to anticipate that in the nose-up attitude, I sit slightly higher up above the runway, without actually climbing.
Originally Posted by piperboy84
try setting the power for a 500fpm descent then diligently NOT changing the power again till the flare