I bit my tongue this afternoon, but....
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If you now know his address then stop being so polite, go and park your tractor on his front lawn while delivering the invoice for his landing fees, see how he likes that unannounced without PPR.
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I no longer mark my strip, have a windsock or anything. If someone wants to fly in I brief them thoroughly and make sure someone is there to meet them and a sock is erected temporarily.
I started doing it when I kept finding aircraft I knew nothing about parked there. One bloke arrived while I was away, upset my neighbours, parked for two days, upset the neighbours when he left and said nothing, we had never met, I hadn't even heard of him he just thought that he would use my strip for his weekend trip, not even an attempt to contact me.
When I fly a helicopter for my day job I wouldn't dream of landing somewhere withouit the land owner's permission (in fact it is an AOC and insurance requirement on our fleet) nor would I land my own toy at a private strip without contacting the owner, getting his brief and offering a contribution to his upkeep when I land.
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I started doing it when I kept finding aircraft I knew nothing about parked there. One bloke arrived while I was away, upset my neighbours, parked for two days, upset the neighbours when he left and said nothing, we had never met, I hadn't even heard of him he just thought that he would use my strip for his weekend trip, not even an attempt to contact me.
When I fly a helicopter for my day job I wouldn't dream of landing somewhere withouit the land owner's permission (in fact it is an AOC and insurance requirement on our fleet) nor would I land my own toy at a private strip without contacting the owner, getting his brief and offering a contribution to his upkeep when I land.
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Or swing by his house on an enduro bike have a couple of laps round his garden, pull a few wheelies and spins, then a friendly wave and off you go
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clamp it, then charge a HUGE fee to get it unclamped, say 10% hull value, what these people that land at your private field are doing is trespassing, as such you are entitled to take what ever action you need to protect your land.
of course this does not apply to Scotland where it seems you can land anywhere under the right to roam laws.
Fats
of course this does not apply to Scotland where it seems you can land anywhere under the right to roam laws.
Fats
A couple of years ago now, but I was out on our club farmstrip tinkering, and an aircraft landed, pulled off the runway and stopped. The pilot got out, watered the grass, then got back in , took off and flew off. I rather regret not noting his registration, but I was so flabbergasted, it just didn't occur to me until later.
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and the old slab (Hershey bar) wing. More drag at low approach speeds but less float.
The 160 and 180 where known as the 160 and 180 and had the slab wing, the 161 and 181 are known as the Warrior and the Archer and have the semi tapered wing.
Sorry for the thread drift.
Back to the topic, I'd either send him a polite letter pointing out his poor etiquette and also stating, prior approval free, unannounced 50 notes, or the other option that appeals is to invite some friends to go with you to visit his office, making use of the waiting area to put your feet up, have a chat, a coffee and lunch (leave your lunch wrappers on the coffee table) and be sure to wave to him on the way out
Watering the grass
Tee hee. Remember once I landed at a small airfield in France for just that purpose. Now usually on a Monday one doesn't even see the airfield cat, so I taxied clear of the runway, shut down and clambered out, was about to do the needful when I got a friendly greeting from the clean up crew who were tidying up after the previous day's air show. Took fully ten painful minutes chat before being escorted to the clubhouse to use the appropriate facilities, followed by coffee and cakes.
Don't think I would have the nerve to drop in on a private strip for anything so banal, though.
Don't think I would have the nerve to drop in on a private strip for anything so banal, though.
Monocock:
Although I like the idea of parking your tractor on his lawn, or spending the afternoon sitting in his office,
I think a polite letter, pointing out that uninvited visitors are unwelcome trespassers, serves your purpose, and maintains your moral high ground.
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At the risk of continuing the thread drift, and sounding a bit nerdy, 
you are both right!.
Although all the Warriors were 151s, then 161s, both with the semi-tapered wing, the Archer I was a posh Cherokee 180 with the slab wing.
The Archer II onwards was the 181 with the 'Warrior' wing.
MJ
Although I like the idea of parking your tractor on his lawn, or spending the afternoon sitting in his office,
I think a polite letter, pointing out that uninvited visitors are unwelcome trespassers, serves your purpose, and maintains your moral high ground.27/09:
Not correct, both the Warrior and Archer have the same semi tapered wing, the one that does cause float if the incorrect speed is flown across the threshold.
you are both right!. Although all the Warriors were 151s, then 161s, both with the semi-tapered wing, the Archer I was a posh Cherokee 180 with the slab wing.
The Archer II onwards was the 181 with the 'Warrior' wing.
MJ
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If you now know his address then stop being so polite, go and park your tractor on his front lawn...
Rather than disturb their outing, he hopped on a bike, rode past and noted their number plate. As is the norm with the upper class, he was dressed like a tramp in tatty old clothes and the family paid him no attention.
The following day, he managed to persuade the Chief Constable to find out where they lived.....
And so the following weekend, a gleaming chauffeur-driven (borrowed) Roller stopped outside a modest 2 up 2 down in some nearby town. From the boot came a picnic table and chairs, wicker hamper, champagne etc., which were duly set up on the tiny front lawn...
The tenant and his family rushed out to find out WTF was going on. "You had lunch on my lawns last week, so now it's my turn to have lunch on yours!", was the obvious answer.
But then the occupant of the Roller said that no harm had actually been done, so at his suggestion they all settled down to demolish the champagne and to share the hamper. The point had been made, but no-one and nothing had been hurt and they parted amiably a couple of hours later.
That was style!
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Phone your local Special Branch and let them know about unauthorised use of your strip, and failing to complete the movements sheet, they 'might' just pay the owner a visit.
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Not worth the aggro of attempting to charge / threaten the ignorant git in charge of the aircraft but I would simply write to the aircraft owner stating the time and date, asking him to ensure that whoever was flying at the time doesn't operate his aircraft in such a cavalier fashion in the future.
The owner may be completely unaware that his aircraft had been used in such a way and just may cease allowing its use by the culprit.
SRD
The owner may be completely unaware that his aircraft had been used in such a way and just may cease allowing its use by the culprit.
SRD
For what it's worth I have had a strip in North Dorset for 10 years. The only unannounced arrival I have ever had was a poor chap who's engine shed some essential components within gliding range.
As to the watering grass incident I have some sympathy with the pilot, this sort of thing can be a safety issue! Though maybe he should have tried to find someone, on the other hand if no one very obvious about why waste their time.
As to the watering grass incident I have some sympathy with the pilot, this sort of thing can be a safety issue! Though maybe he should have tried to find someone, on the other hand if no one very obvious about why waste their time.
Not worth the aggro of attempting to charge / threaten the ignorant git in charge of the aircraft but I would simply write to the aircraft owner stating the time and date, asking him to ensure that whoever was flying at the time doesn't operate his aircraft in such a cavalier fashion in the future.
The owner may be completely unaware that his aircraft had been used in such a way and just may cease allowing its use by the culprit.
I chanced upon this thread and, whilst some of the replies are clever and amusing, I wonder whether, having gone to the trouble of tracking the owner down, it might be worth picking up the phone and having a chat with him. On the face of it, what was done by the pilot is not something that should have been done but I can think of some very good reasons why things happened the way they did. I don't know where Monocock's strip is and how easy it would be to track him down as its owner, particularly if there was a case of 'temporarily unsure of position'. It could well be case that the pilot would welcome the opportunity to put his side of the story and is either unable to or embarrassed about it. Talking directly to people can often save a lot of unnecessary stress and ill feeling.
The owner may be completely unaware that his aircraft had been used in such a way and just may cease allowing its use by the culprit.
I chanced upon this thread and, whilst some of the replies are clever and amusing, I wonder whether, having gone to the trouble of tracking the owner down, it might be worth picking up the phone and having a chat with him. On the face of it, what was done by the pilot is not something that should have been done but I can think of some very good reasons why things happened the way they did. I don't know where Monocock's strip is and how easy it would be to track him down as its owner, particularly if there was a case of 'temporarily unsure of position'. It could well be case that the pilot would welcome the opportunity to put his side of the story and is either unable to or embarrassed about it. Talking directly to people can often save a lot of unnecessary stress and ill feeling.
A more serious practical point to make to the owner (for whoever might have been flying the aeroplane) would be...how did he know that the runway surface was suitable?
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