Third lesson, sick :-(
Was never sick flying 'normally' in any conditions, but was sick during the majority of my aerobatic flights. Definitely need to look outside!
I had to have the cockpit cold.
I had to have the cockpit cold.
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I gave a girl a trial lesson. about half way through she said she felt ill. I passed her the sick bag she filled it and the second one.
Undeterred, she decided to continue and is now in the solo cross country stage and never an airsickness symptom again.
I once had occasion where a students flying made ME feel sick. The remedy was to ask him to let go of the controls and as the aircraft flew on smoothly now nicely trimmed out everything settled down.
A valuable lesson learnt about overcontrolling.
Undeterred, she decided to continue and is now in the solo cross country stage and never an airsickness symptom again.
I once had occasion where a students flying made ME feel sick. The remedy was to ask him to let go of the controls and as the aircraft flew on smoothly now nicely trimmed out everything settled down.
A valuable lesson learnt about overcontrolling.
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I took my bank manager up for a ride and she began to feel unwell....we came down again rapidly but she still chucked her cookies....
The classic suggestion from the instructor to the sick student, if you forgot to make sure there was a sick bag in the plane. Just pull your T shirt up over your face and breath deeply...that's right, keep it there....KEEP IT THERE...!
The classic suggestion from the instructor to the sick student, if you forgot to make sure there was a sick bag in the plane. Just pull your T shirt up over your face and breath deeply...that's right, keep it there....KEEP IT THERE...!
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You all had your human performance lessons before taking flight lessons?
It is not uncommon to have quite a learning edge before you understand your own physiology. Everybody is a bit different and it takes time to understand your own body(fluids and when they will greet you again upways).
Try to figure out under what circumstances you do not feel well. Is is nervous, is it hungry or fed up, better coffee or tea b4 T/O, one of my students cured it by one liter of Coke (which usually gave a biotechnical time limit for the first flights), for me it was an allergy causing in-ear irritation and found by surprise by the flight doctor ... So, relax and take your time to find your personal reason.
It is not uncommon to have quite a learning edge before you understand your own physiology. Everybody is a bit different and it takes time to understand your own body(fluids and when they will greet you again upways).
Try to figure out under what circumstances you do not feel well. Is is nervous, is it hungry or fed up, better coffee or tea b4 T/O, one of my students cured it by one liter of Coke (which usually gave a biotechnical time limit for the first flights), for me it was an allergy causing in-ear irritation and found by surprise by the flight doctor ... So, relax and take your time to find your personal reason.
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I have 7000+ hours. If I have 2 weeks off work, I always feel queasy on the first day back.
1, Don't worry about it 2, Have a decent breakfast and stay hydrated
3, Try not to leave too long between flights.
Good luck
1, Don't worry about it 2, Have a decent breakfast and stay hydrated
3, Try not to leave too long between flights.
Good luck
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listen buddy, I think the PA 28 is the way to go. not PS 28
I want you to get a little carbon monoxide detector too. sometimes exhaust gas gets into the cockpit and feeling sick might come from that.
there are little stick em carbon monoxide detectors that change color...also, was the cabin heat being used on the sick flight? IE was it cold enough to warrant using the heater?
I would pick the PA28 as my choice in learning to fly, I soloed in it 40 years ago or so. Great little plane , proven...just make sure it is well maintained.
oh, and buy: STICK AND RUDDER and read it half a dozen times.
listen buddy, I think the PA 28 is the way to go. not PS 28
I want you to get a little carbon monoxide detector too. sometimes exhaust gas gets into the cockpit and feeling sick might come from that.
there are little stick em carbon monoxide detectors that change color...also, was the cabin heat being used on the sick flight? IE was it cold enough to warrant using the heater?
I would pick the PA28 as my choice in learning to fly, I soloed in it 40 years ago or so. Great little plane , proven...just make sure it is well maintained.
oh, and buy: STICK AND RUDDER and read it half a dozen times.
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So had another lesson today, just under an hour but back in the PA28 and was absolutely fine 
only difference today was I wore a T shirt and had water before I went up.
So maybe the last lesson feeling rough was down to excitement, nerves plus the lighter aircraft and it was bumpier ? And I went up last week so a much shorter break between lessons ?
Going to try the lighter PS-28 Tuesday if the weathers good otherwise back in the PA28.
only difference today was I wore a T shirt and had water before I went up. So maybe the last lesson feeling rough was down to excitement, nerves plus the lighter aircraft and it was bumpier ? And I went up last week so a much shorter break between lessons ?
Going to try the lighter PS-28 Tuesday if the weathers good otherwise back in the PA28.
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Many years ago and more years than I'd like to admit, I had a young student who was physically sick during the first lesson E of C's, threw him the bag. He was very apologetic. Thought he had blown the course. I got him solo in 5 hours flat.
Ya gotta have a full belly!! I recommend full, artery busting English.
Ya gotta have a full belly!! I recommend full, artery busting English.
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Keep the cabin temperature to OFF and the air vents fully open, this aids concentration and helps avoid sickness. I felt heaps better when I did my solo with the little window open in a PA28. Still felt sick after the landing!
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Yes and I am aware there is a bit of a risk involved sending someone off that early. I was young myself at the time and the aerodrome lent itself to that sort of thing, I.E., large, grass and uncontrolled.
When I looked at a student's logbook in later years and noted the student had done some advanced exercises like steep turns, etc., for example before soloing I knew straight away he or she probably had a good instructor.
When I looked at a student's logbook in later years and noted the student had done some advanced exercises like steep turns, etc., for example before soloing I knew straight away he or she probably had a good instructor.
Experienced pilots quite often have a problem in the sim with queasiness. One very well known sim provider had an elastic band with a button sewn on. You slipped the band over the wrist with the button positioned on the inside of the wrist. They swore by it as a preventative measure.
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Hi,
Just a quick delayed update from my lesson nearly a week ago ! Well no sick feeling at all and I was back in the PA-28 which I've decide to stick with now for training. I had a different instructor and he was brilliant and had such a laugh it was also the first time I got to fly over my house, old schools etc :-) I was in control most of the lesson, I even done my first landing with a little help from him on the rudder ! I wasn't expecting me doing the landing at all, I couldn't stop smiling for hours after that lesson :-)
Just a quick delayed update from my lesson nearly a week ago ! Well no sick feeling at all and I was back in the PA-28 which I've decide to stick with now for training. I had a different instructor and he was brilliant and had such a laugh it was also the first time I got to fly over my house, old schools etc :-) I was in control most of the lesson, I even done my first landing with a little help from him on the rudder ! I wasn't expecting me doing the landing at all, I couldn't stop smiling for hours after that lesson :-)
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great news.
I find that the more I'm flying the plane, the less likely I am to feel the need to hurl.
I'm glad you've overcome this obstacle and I know that feeling of "feet not touching the floor"all too well.
here's to many more happy hours in the plane!
I find that the more I'm flying the plane, the less likely I am to feel the need to hurl.
I'm glad you've overcome this obstacle and I know that feeling of "feet not touching the floor"all too well.
here's to many more happy hours in the plane!
Great news SAW77. Do you think the fact that you were really comfortable with your instructor might have helped? I don't think it has been mentioned here 2but in my opinion being scared (or uncomfortable with a situation) can trigger nausea in an aircraft. I had a similar situation many years ago with my first instructor whom I did not really have much confidence in. I changed instructors (turned out it was a good decision) and never looked back.
