Simple question about training rules
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Simple question about training rules
In the UK and under EASA for PPL(A) SEP
Ab initio training must be carried out by an ATO in an aircraft that registered with (though not necessarily owned by) said ATO. Instruction must be carried out by an instructor attached to the ATO and records must be maintained by the ATO. Training is well prescribed and the CAA expect to see the (19?) standard exercises logged. The licence is awarded after successful completion of training, nine exams, suitable solo x-country and a flying test (+ form + fee).
Am I correct that:
i) Differences training (floppy prop, tailwheel) can be done by a freelance instructor in any suitable aircraft with the training signed off in the pilot's logbook and not recorded elsewhere. The nature and amount of training is not prescribed and the difference is awarded on the signature of a flying instructor. The CAA are not notified.
ii) Training for class ratings (TMG, banner towing, glider towing, glass cockpit, ME) must be completed and recorded under an ATO. There is a flight test and on successful completion the licence is amended by the CAA. The aircraft does not need to be registered with the ATO and other than the submitted form, details of the training do not need to be recorded. The training is not prescribed and the class rating is awarded on submission of the form and its fee to the CAA.
(Still trying to understand IR(R) and IR practicalities).
W
Ab initio training must be carried out by an ATO in an aircraft that registered with (though not necessarily owned by) said ATO. Instruction must be carried out by an instructor attached to the ATO and records must be maintained by the ATO. Training is well prescribed and the CAA expect to see the (19?) standard exercises logged. The licence is awarded after successful completion of training, nine exams, suitable solo x-country and a flying test (+ form + fee).
Am I correct that:
i) Differences training (floppy prop, tailwheel) can be done by a freelance instructor in any suitable aircraft with the training signed off in the pilot's logbook and not recorded elsewhere. The nature and amount of training is not prescribed and the difference is awarded on the signature of a flying instructor. The CAA are not notified.
ii) Training for class ratings (TMG, banner towing, glider towing, glass cockpit, ME) must be completed and recorded under an ATO. There is a flight test and on successful completion the licence is amended by the CAA. The aircraft does not need to be registered with the ATO and other than the submitted form, details of the training do not need to be recorded. The training is not prescribed and the class rating is awarded on submission of the form and its fee to the CAA.
(Still trying to understand IR(R) and IR practicalities).W
i) Correct
ii) Incorrect, training for a Class rating, Towing Rating etc must be to an approved syllabus and records kept exactly as; per the PPL course. The aircraft must also be approved by the HT.
ii) Incorrect, training for a Class rating, Towing Rating etc must be to an approved syllabus and records kept exactly as; per the PPL course. The aircraft must also be approved by the HT.
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Thanks Whopity
Are you able to point me at the syllabus? I had thought the information would be in Part-FCL-725 but I can't see anything relevant (in this instance to TMG).
Sorry for my ignorance, but what's HT?
must be to an approved syllabus
approved by the HT
Are you able to point me at the syllabus?
SYLLABUS OF THEORETICAL KNOWLEDGE FOR CLASS OR TYPE RATINGS
I. SE AND ME AEROPLANES
I. SE AND ME AEROPLANES
GM1 FCL.010 Definitions - HT Head of Training
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Uff, it depends.
The easiest way to look at it is:
for i) difference training, you need FI - a FlightInstructor of any kind and get scribbles in your personal flight book;
for ii) class rating & co it depends, usually you need FE - a FlightExaminer, not necessarily connected to an ATO, and this one can sign into your license with a notice letter to CAA. You can exchange FE by FI-at-an-ATO for such case, but then you have to get a new license from authorities, as under EASA FI is no longer allowed to scribble in your license.
In both cases the plane can be any having the trained specs, BUT - the usual problem is insurance coverage of the plane, not certification: if you take an FE to train something you don't have the license to do, the FE is PIC and the insurance of the plane has to cover that. I remember the CVFR additional training to convert ICAO to PartFCL, where this was a problem due to the fact that most owners had only limited liability on their planes.
The easiest way to look at it is:
for i) difference training, you need FI - a FlightInstructor of any kind and get scribbles in your personal flight book;
for ii) class rating & co it depends, usually you need FE - a FlightExaminer, not necessarily connected to an ATO, and this one can sign into your license with a notice letter to CAA. You can exchange FE by FI-at-an-ATO for such case, but then you have to get a new license from authorities, as under EASA FI is no longer allowed to scribble in your license.
In both cases the plane can be any having the trained specs, BUT - the usual problem is insurance coverage of the plane, not certification: if you take an FE to train something you don't have the license to do, the FE is PIC and the insurance of the plane has to cover that. I remember the CVFR additional training to convert ICAO to PartFCL, where this was a problem due to the fact that most owners had only limited liability on their planes.
