American with German Licenses - EASA?
Thread Starter
American with German Licenses - EASA?
While stationed in Germany 2011-2013 I earned a power license (easier because I had an American one, but it's "real" not "on the basis of") and a gliding license.
I also have a "BGA Gliding Lisense".
I'm looking for advice on how to turn these licenses from 2012 into EASA Part-FCL ones so I don't lose the effort/money I put into them.
Can/should I transfer the German paperwork to the UK so I can do all this ine English?
Thanks for your advice.
Terry
I also have a "BGA Gliding Lisense".
I'm looking for advice on how to turn these licenses from 2012 into EASA Part-FCL ones so I don't lose the effort/money I put into them.
Can/should I transfer the German paperwork to the UK so I can do all this ine English?
Thanks for your advice.
Terry
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Europe
Age: 51
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
You may run into a problem if you want to change your "State of Licence Issue" from germany to the UK:
How to obtain a UK EASA Licence if you hold a non-UK medical certificate/licence | Medical | Personal Licences and Training
Read the section "PLEASE NOTE".
Try to contact the LBA (or the appropriate "Landesluftfahrtbehörde" that issued your licence) and ask under which conditions they can surrender the medical information to the CAA.
Or just get a new medical in the UK (don't know if that would work - ask the CAA: +44 1293 573700).
How to obtain a UK EASA Licence if you hold a non-UK medical certificate/licence | Medical | Personal Licences and Training
Read the section "PLEASE NOTE".
Try to contact the LBA (or the appropriate "Landesluftfahrtbehörde" that issued your licence) and ask under which conditions they can surrender the medical information to the CAA.
Or just get a new medical in the UK (don't know if that would work - ask the CAA: +44 1293 573700).
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: East Anglia
Posts: 832
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
There is one part of the advice on the CAA website that is wrong:
A German licence is not valid for flying an N reg aircraft anywhere other than Germany.
So, you cannot use a German issued EASA licence to fly an N reg in the UK.
You cannot convert a German EASA licence to a UK one.
The only way is to get a US one issued either standalone or on the basis of the German EASA one.
This just happened to an Italian friend and it took weeks and quite a few £100s to resolve.
Please note that German pilots’ licences are fully valid in all EASA member states.
So, you cannot use a German issued EASA licence to fly an N reg in the UK.
You cannot convert a German EASA licence to a UK one.
The only way is to get a US one issued either standalone or on the basis of the German EASA one.
This just happened to an Italian friend and it took weeks and quite a few £100s to resolve.
Thread Starter
ZA-
I have US certificates. I have German licenses. I'm not trying to do the commonly seen here JAR-to-FAA conversion.
My German licenses were issued in 2012. They are "pre-EASA," to make up my own terminology.
I'm hoping to move back to Europe in the next couple years.
I paid a lot of money to get the German licenses to be comepletely independent of my US certificates. I would like to protect that investment. It will be much easier to be part of the conversion wave now than to fix it later.
I suspect the process for UK citizens to go UK -> EASA would be much the same as German -> EASA since the destination is the same, hence my question.
I no longer have a valid German medical; I do have a valid FAA medical. It makes no financial sense to fly to the UK to get a medical just so I can change issuing states. Although, if I could piggyback that with converting my glider flight instructor certificate to a BGA one I might do it.
I have US certificates. I have German licenses. I'm not trying to do the commonly seen here JAR-to-FAA conversion.
My German licenses were issued in 2012. They are "pre-EASA," to make up my own terminology.
I'm hoping to move back to Europe in the next couple years.
I paid a lot of money to get the German licenses to be comepletely independent of my US certificates. I would like to protect that investment. It will be much easier to be part of the conversion wave now than to fix it later.
I suspect the process for UK citizens to go UK -> EASA would be much the same as German -> EASA since the destination is the same, hence my question.
I no longer have a valid German medical; I do have a valid FAA medical. It makes no financial sense to fly to the UK to get a medical just so I can change issuing states. Although, if I could piggyback that with converting my glider flight instructor certificate to a BGA one I might do it.
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,815
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/49/Process...0of%20SOLI.pdf
SRG1202: Form for the Transfer of Medical Details to the UK CAA Medical Section for a Change of State Licence (SOLI) | Publications | About the CAA
Once the medical stuff is transferred then it isn't to bad.
I don't know anyone recently that has done it.
You will have to get some sort of EASA medical valid to be able to get the license issued. But there are doctors in the US that can do it.
AME Search Results | Medical | Personal Licences and Training
Much as people bitch about the UK fee's its not going to cost that much to do.
SRG1202: Form for the Transfer of Medical Details to the UK CAA Medical Section for a Change of State Licence (SOLI) | Publications | About the CAA
Once the medical stuff is transferred then it isn't to bad.
I don't know anyone recently that has done it.
You will have to get some sort of EASA medical valid to be able to get the license issued. But there are doctors in the US that can do it.
AME Search Results | Medical | Personal Licences and Training
Much as people bitch about the UK fee's its not going to cost that much to do.
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Munich, Germany
Posts: 270
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
My German licenses were issued in 2012. They are "pre-EASA," to make up my own terminology.
I'm afraid you will have to come to Germany and get an authorized examiner to get you through the extension process.
Can/Should I transfer the German paperwork to the UK so I can do all this in English?
PM me if you need any assistance in doing that. I'm based in Munich, Germany.
WP
Last edited by worldpilot; 15th Jul 2014 at 17:02.
@LTCTerry:
Best thing is to contact your Landesluftfahrtbehörde to clarify things.
In addition to the requisite amount of hours and a valid German medical, don't forget that you have to have a biennial checkride (and for that you would have to come to Germany), and a current ZÜP as well, for your German licence to be valid.
It could very well be that if any of these requirements are not fulfilled, you simply reacquire your rights by having them done and submitting the documentation to relevant authority, whereupon you will be issued with a new licence.
Best thing is to contact your Landesluftfahrtbehörde to clarify things.
In addition to the requisite amount of hours and a valid German medical, don't forget that you have to have a biennial checkride (and for that you would have to come to Germany), and a current ZÜP as well, for your German licence to be valid.
It could very well be that if any of these requirements are not fulfilled, you simply reacquire your rights by having them done and submitting the documentation to relevant authority, whereupon you will be issued with a new licence.
