SEP EFATO at night
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SEP EFATO at night
Greetings.
Could someone please give me the best procedural advice in the event of an EFATO in a SEP at night ? I am not a pilot, but am curious to know the general level of opinion.
Thank you.
Could someone please give me the best procedural advice in the event of an EFATO in a SEP at night ? I am not a pilot, but am curious to know the general level of opinion.
Thank you.
If you know the airfield well, you should know where the smooth bits are to land straight-ahead +/- 30 degrees
Otherwise, aim for the dark bits.
Landing light may be helpful, or just serve to show you what you are going to hit (in which case it may be considered optional).
Of course there are the old, not bold, pilots who would not take off at all.
(removes tongue from cheek).
FBW
Otherwise, aim for the dark bits.
Landing light may be helpful, or just serve to show you what you are going to hit (in which case it may be considered optional).
Of course there are the old, not bold, pilots who would not take off at all.
(removes tongue from cheek).
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Could someone please give me the best procedural advice in the event of an EFATO in a SEP at night
I am in the not at all camp in a SEP.
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It literally is 'aim for the dark bits.' As FBW says you should know your local airfield well enough to know where the maybe good bits are, or the bits that are less worse than the other bits. Other than that it's hope and see the funny side. I only keep mine current for 'just in case' scenarios, I don't go lurching off at night for fun.
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aviate navigate procrastinate communicate
aviate
first immediate action is to get glide speed to avoid a stall.
second immediate action is to check the fuel is switched on.
try a restart.
navigate
if you have enough time aim for a landable area
procrastinate
quell the panic, gather the thoughts keep aviating and navigating
communicate
whack out a mayday
realise that some days you're fcuked.
aviate
first immediate action is to get glide speed to avoid a stall.
second immediate action is to check the fuel is switched on.
try a restart.
navigate
if you have enough time aim for a landable area
procrastinate
quell the panic, gather the thoughts keep aviating and navigating
communicate
whack out a mayday
realise that some days you're fcuked.
Pilots are not dying during the takeoff phase from EFATO's they typically kill themselves by hitting something on the departure path or just flying back into the ground.
The "black hole" effect is very real and there can be a powerful illusion that the nose is rising right after takeoff. This causes the pilot to unconsciously pitch down and results in the plane stop climbing or even descending. This effect is particularly noticeable if there are no lighted area's on your departure path. It is vital that you cross check your AI to ensure you are maintaining the proper pitch attitude.
As. for the EFATO scenario, we'll 80 % of all engine failures are caused by the pilot so don't be one of them !
If the engine fails the key is to keep control of the aircraft. Stats show that 93 % of all crashes had no fatalities if the aircraft was approximately wings level and in a level or nose up pitch attitude when it impacted the ground from what ever cause. The killer crashed are hits in a steep nose down and/or banked attitude.
The "black hole" effect is very real and there can be a powerful illusion that the nose is rising right after takeoff. This causes the pilot to unconsciously pitch down and results in the plane stop climbing or even descending. This effect is particularly noticeable if there are no lighted area's on your departure path. It is vital that you cross check your AI to ensure you are maintaining the proper pitch attitude.
As. for the EFATO scenario, we'll 80 % of all engine failures are caused by the pilot so don't be one of them !
If the engine fails the key is to keep control of the aircraft. Stats show that 93 % of all crashes had no fatalities if the aircraft was approximately wings level and in a level or nose up pitch attitude when it impacted the ground from what ever cause. The killer crashed are hits in a steep nose down and/or banked attitude.
mad-jock wrote:
It always amused me how many of my RAF colleagues didn't like night flying in the Bulldog even on cloudless nights with a full moon.
Yet they all seemed happy to fly an instrument approach to 200' DH in thick cloud.
Engine fails at 3nm on an instrument approach - what are your options?
Don't like the risk? Perhaps you should consider a 2-dimensional career.
I am in the not at all camp in a SEP.
Yet they all seemed happy to fly an instrument approach to 200' DH in thick cloud.
Engine fails at 3nm on an instrument approach - what are your options?
Don't like the risk? Perhaps you should consider a 2-dimensional career.
cloudless nights with a full moon
So, apart from bright moonlit nights...
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It always amused me how many of my RAF colleagues didn't like night flying in the Bulldog even on cloudless nights with a full moon.
Yet they all seemed happy to fly an instrument approach to 200' DH in thick cloud
Yet they all seemed happy to fly an instrument approach to 200' DH in thick cloud
I would second the moonlit night scenario, not so bad then.
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Don't like the risk? Perhaps you should consider a 2-dimensional career.
I have absolutely zero requirement to fly single engine at night unless of course I have an engine failure and have to get on the ground with one.
Also the school I taught at the year before I started had an engine failure at night and the student died by drowning, the instructor managed to swim for it.