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Unpublished procedure 22/04
The unpublished procedures work very well. I have used both when needed.
The white tower at Havering is a very useful landmark. Steer 330 from this landmark and Stapleford will be camouflaged on the nose. Alternatively, dial in 115.60 on Nav 1
The white tower at Havering is a very useful landmark. Steer 330 from this landmark and Stapleford will be camouflaged on the nose. Alternatively, dial in 115.60 on Nav 1
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Question: since I am 14 and I am starting my ppl in a few months what would be the syllabus ie the order of things that I will be taught for example ground school, navigation etc
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I hadn't realised that you were that young.
I see that your problem is going to be when you get to solo stage and still only being 15. Remember that your written exams also have a relatively short shelf life.
Generally, exams are taken through the syllabus when subjects become much clearer. Obviously, the first exam to concentrate on would be air law.
I see that your problem is going to be when you get to solo stage and still only being 15. Remember that your written exams also have a relatively short shelf life.
Generally, exams are taken through the syllabus when subjects become much clearer. Obviously, the first exam to concentrate on would be air law.
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What you should be doing now is chasing after girls. Leave the occupational therapy stuff until you're one hundred and eighty nine months old and then go like smoke.
Anything else is likely to involve some quite serious random wastage.
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Anything else is likely to involve some quite serious random wastage.
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Thanks for the reply's but what I was looking for was something like what oaa does where they tell you the order of things like ground school and they separate what you do by weeks I know you need 45 hours on flying but does that include ground school and the first things I would do when I first start keeping in mind that I already flew 6 times.
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Adam, might I suggest you try reading the textbooks reccomended by your instructor. Try your public library first before you buy them.
What you are looking for is called a syllabus.
What you are looking for is called a syllabus.
Adam, I think it's great that any 14yo is interested in learning to fly, and I can say that it is easily the most engaging and fascinating thing I did with my life. (You can hear the 'but' comming, I'm sure.)
I'm a little dismayed that you have done six flying lessons and you don't already know these things. This is not your fault. You need to have a serious chat with your Instructor about what is involved in learning to fly, and what books you should be reading to go with it. There are several series of books associated with flight training, and Vol. 1 of any of these is the one you need right now. This contains the syllabus and all the flying exercises. I reccomend the AFE series.
As has already been mentioned, the most frustrating problem you will have, is that you will be ready to fly solo way before you are old enough. (You have to be 16 to fly solo, and 17 to apply for a Licence.) This will involve either an excrutiating delay in your training at the worst possible time, or it will be suggested that the order of the syllabus doesn't really matter, and that you can continue with the rest of the exercises, and do all the solo flights at the end instead. This disrupts the logic and flow of the process, and is very confusing.
I know that this isn't what you want to hear, but I would strongly reccomend that you postpone any formal training until you are 16.
MJ
I'm a little dismayed that you have done six flying lessons and you don't already know these things. This is not your fault. You need to have a serious chat with your Instructor about what is involved in learning to fly, and what books you should be reading to go with it. There are several series of books associated with flight training, and Vol. 1 of any of these is the one you need right now. This contains the syllabus and all the flying exercises. I reccomend the AFE series.
As has already been mentioned, the most frustrating problem you will have, is that you will be ready to fly solo way before you are old enough. (You have to be 16 to fly solo, and 17 to apply for a Licence.) This will involve either an excrutiating delay in your training at the worst possible time, or it will be suggested that the order of the syllabus doesn't really matter, and that you can continue with the rest of the exercises, and do all the solo flights at the end instead. This disrupts the logic and flow of the process, and is very confusing.
I know that this isn't what you want to hear, but I would strongly reccomend that you postpone any formal training until you are 16.
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What MJ says is very good advice, meanwhile, you have the internet at your disposal. Why not do a bit of research on Paragliding, Microlighting (both flexwing and 3-axis), Gliding.....
There are many ways of getting airborne...at your age, there was no way I could dream of anything more than a "trip round the bay" in an elderly 4-seat taildragger Auster.- But I was a keen aeromodeller and could read all the books and latest magazines for free at the Public Library (It was warmer than home, in the winter, as well!) I learned a lot about the theory and practice of flight from models.
You may well find that some disciplines have lower age-limits for gaining a licence. To follow this path will give you a much better understanding and make the PPL training far easier, far more enjoyable and make you a better, safer pilot.
(It would also look damned good on your C.V. to a prospective employer.)
There are many ways of getting airborne...at your age, there was no way I could dream of anything more than a "trip round the bay" in an elderly 4-seat taildragger Auster.- But I was a keen aeromodeller and could read all the books and latest magazines for free at the Public Library (It was warmer than home, in the winter, as well!) I learned a lot about the theory and practice of flight from models.
You may well find that some disciplines have lower age-limits for gaining a licence. To follow this path will give you a much better understanding and make the PPL training far easier, far more enjoyable and make you a better, safer pilot.
(It would also look damned good on your C.V. to a prospective employer.)
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Thanks to all I will keep this in mind, so now I am on my way to the library to get a card I already have vol 1 from trevor thom but I don't know if it is still good today since it was published around 20 years ago.
The next time I am flying is this Tuesday 28 oct is there anything I need to tell my instructor
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The next time I am flying is this Tuesday 28 oct is there anything I need to tell my instructor
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Hi Adam,
Forgive me if I am repeating something from earlier in this thread; I haven't been following this thread too closely so I may be repeating someone else's comment.
As a young person, have you considered joining the Air Training Corps? I believe there is quite a bit of free flying to be had with them in both powered aircraft and gliders; (gliding courses and 'flying scholarships').
You asked whether the 45 hour requirement includes ground school. No it does not. And the 45 hours is only a legal minimum training you must receive to reach the standard to pass the skill test and cross country. Most people take more like 70 hours of flying to reach PPL standard.
Also, why not start off on weight-shift and/or three axis microlights, which are much cheaper to hire and I believe the BMAA training requirements may be less demanding than the PPL; (I'm not speaking from personal knowledge on this: anybody here know about this?).
You could also join a civilian gliding club.
Good luck!
BP.
Forgive me if I am repeating something from earlier in this thread; I haven't been following this thread too closely so I may be repeating someone else's comment.
As a young person, have you considered joining the Air Training Corps? I believe there is quite a bit of free flying to be had with them in both powered aircraft and gliders; (gliding courses and 'flying scholarships').
You asked whether the 45 hour requirement includes ground school. No it does not. And the 45 hours is only a legal minimum training you must receive to reach the standard to pass the skill test and cross country. Most people take more like 70 hours of flying to reach PPL standard.
Also, why not start off on weight-shift and/or three axis microlights, which are much cheaper to hire and I believe the BMAA training requirements may be less demanding than the PPL; (I'm not speaking from personal knowledge on this: anybody here know about this?).
You could also join a civilian gliding club.
Good luck!
BP.
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Thanks for your reply
I would consider micro gliding but the thing is dont know any flight schools that do that within the area but definitely worth a research I always considerd joining the air training corps even the days before I joined stapleford but a friend of mine said that they hardly do any flying and you need to cut your hair very short so that sort of freaked me out but maybe he was talking about something else but I will look into what you said so thanks.
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I would consider micro gliding but the thing is dont know any flight schools that do that within the area but definitely worth a research I always considerd joining the air training corps even the days before I joined stapleford but a friend of mine said that they hardly do any flying and you need to cut your hair very short so that sort of freaked me out but maybe he was talking about something else but I will look into what you said so thanks.
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Microlighting and gliding
Hi Adam,
I've never heard of micro-gliding! Microlights are all powered aircraft.
Weight-shift microlighting is not done from ordinary flying clubs. There are separate clubs for that purpose generally operating from unlicensed fields and pasture; (although the microlighters do fly into aerodromes for a visit quite routinely).
Some flying clubs do have a certain amount of three axis micro-light flying, but mostly this too is done from the separate microlighting clubs.
You can find the whereabouts of all the micro clubs from the BMAA (British Microlight Aircraft Association). Look 'em up on the web.
If you want to have a look at a typical three axis microlight, take a look at the Ikarus or the Eurostar online. That will give you an idea of what sort of aircraft we are talking about.
You can find out about gliding clubs from the BGA (British Gliding Association).
Regards,
BP.
I've never heard of micro-gliding! Microlights are all powered aircraft.
Weight-shift microlighting is not done from ordinary flying clubs. There are separate clubs for that purpose generally operating from unlicensed fields and pasture; (although the microlighters do fly into aerodromes for a visit quite routinely).
Some flying clubs do have a certain amount of three axis micro-light flying, but mostly this too is done from the separate microlighting clubs.
You can find the whereabouts of all the micro clubs from the BMAA (British Microlight Aircraft Association). Look 'em up on the web.
If you want to have a look at a typical three axis microlight, take a look at the Ikarus or the Eurostar online. That will give you an idea of what sort of aircraft we are talking about.
You can find out about gliding clubs from the BGA (British Gliding Association).
Regards,
BP.
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Sorry that's what I meant when I wrote microgliding I just typed it in wrong
I researched some microlight flight schools but they are a bit far still EGSG is much closer. And also it's more easier to get there from my location but when I go this Tuesday I will ask wether they have any microlight aircraft for training
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Adam
I researched some microlight flight schools but they are a bit far still EGSG is much closer. And also it's more easier to get there from my location but when I go this Tuesday I will ask wether they have any microlight aircraft for training
Kind regards
Adam
Hi Adam, from your posts it would seem that the financial side of all this "experience flying" that you are doing is not a problem. If so, then that is an excellent situation to be in.
As others have suggested, if by now you have had about half a dozen flights, then your instructor should really be taking you further along the learning curve, especially as your ambition is a PPL and then on to a CPL. The problem remains that at your current age, you are not going to be able to take advantage of the skills that the syllabus will give you. By all means enjoy the fact that you are in the air, but for me, In your situation, I would wait a while longer, I am sure that SFC are not going to discourage you spending money with them, but from some of the questions that you have been asking on this forum, the knowlege that should be coming from your flights, is not being imparted to you.
Best wishes and good luck to you anyway.
Meldrew.
As others have suggested, if by now you have had about half a dozen flights, then your instructor should really be taking you further along the learning curve, especially as your ambition is a PPL and then on to a CPL. The problem remains that at your current age, you are not going to be able to take advantage of the skills that the syllabus will give you. By all means enjoy the fact that you are in the air, but for me, In your situation, I would wait a while longer, I am sure that SFC are not going to discourage you spending money with them, but from some of the questions that you have been asking on this forum, the knowlege that should be coming from your flights, is not being imparted to you.
Best wishes and good luck to you anyway.
Meldrew.
