Mines a new one so I get stung for £191 like guyleedsutd said. Suppose it's a drop in the ocean when you stack it up against the cost of all the training etc. Cheaper flying from here on in!
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....did it go up after the EASA applications came in?
The difference is that it the PPL is now valid for life, rather than for 5 years (although you'll still need to revalidate / renew your SEP Class Rating) - so if anything, the price came down significantly.
£65 for UK-EASA change + £73 for RT Licence (which only lasts 10years!!) + another £35 if you choose to fly an Annex 2 aircraft).
Actually, as I understand it, if you have a non-expiring UK-PPL or an EASA PPL then that covers you for Annexe II
I hadn't realised we needed to pay for a radio licence for a UK-PPL - EASA PPL. That one is new to me. The CAA checklist indicates that radio comes under national rules, so I assume as I have a UK-PPL non-expiring licence, my radio licence will remain as it is without a 10year expiry
Robin...I would like to think you were right but I have my doubts...
If you follow the charges calculator down it asks if you are going to fly and Annexe 2 aircraft and then automatically adds £35 to the calculation.
The Radio telephony licence, is confusing because it is a Rating on your licence and you need to therefore add it (£73). Then if you look in the scheme of charges it says that a RT licence only lasts for 10years!
1.5 The 2012 amendment of the Air navigation Order renders EASA licences with the appropriate class rating to be valid for UK-registered non-EASA aircraft within those classes; thereby avoiding the need for the holder of an EASA PPL(A) with SEP rating to also hold a national licence in order to fly an amateur-built aeroplane or a Tigermoth, for example...
The exception is for type ratings, as you can't add a type rating for a non-EASA aircraft to a Part-FCL licence so you need the piggyback national licence...
I hadn't realised we needed to pay for a radio licence for a UK-PPL - EASA PPL. That one is new to me
And the rest of us. It has always been the case that the UK FRTOL is issued free to the holder of a UK flight crew licence and the application form said so. The new SRG1106 does not say so however; ORS5-269 Table 4 note 2 says
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2 Except where the applicant is the holder of a licence issued by the UK CAA to act as pilot, flight navigator or flight engineer.
So there is still no charge for a FRTOL when the applicant is either applying for, or the holder of, a UK flight crew licence.
This is cheeky: Ratings check on a re-issued EASA Flight Crew Licence Upon such application that would require an existing EASA Flight Crew Licence to be reissued, the applicant shall pay to the CAA a charge of £20 for all existing ratings associated with that licence to be checked for currency of validity.
Therefore to add an RT rating to a licence, it would actually cost you the extra £20 as well - so £99 rather than £79.
Adding a new radio licence to your Part-FCL licence (which, to be honest, isn't a common thing to do as I suspect 99% of people will have it on there when they get their licence initially) involves the CAA re-issuing the licence.
When they re-issue a licence, they do a ratings check, costing you £20 extra...
As mentioned by Whopity, there is no charge for the issue of an FRTOL where the applicant is the holder of a licence issued by the UK CAA to act as pilot, flight navigator or flight engineer.
Fair enough - I see the note in the PDF version of the scheme of charges.
The online calculator says (and thats after telling it you have a licence) that you need to pay if you have a JAR licence, and you have to pay an additional £20 if you have an EASA licence.
Also the flow chart only mentions an exemption for initial issue of the licence.
Clear as mud, as always. Always happy to be corrected- thanks wb9999..
Nothing with the CAA is clear, and the pricing is too complicated. I recently renewed an expired SEP rating (expired more than 5 years), replaced my JAR PPL with an EASA PPL and renewed my expired FRTOL. I had no idea how much I was going to cost me. I was expecting £73. I wasn't expecting to be charged for th SEP renewal, but at least the FRTOL was free.
I've got £65 for convertion of a CAA lifetime to an EASA, not allowing Annex 2, but £65 + £35 if I need to fly Annex2. Or is this only if the Annex2 required a type rating?
