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All this talk about being taken in, I personally totally believed GEP’s “caped crusader cleaning up dodgy GA” bull**** in its entirety which shocks me all the more taking into account my past business career which involved mingling with society’s worst and most hardened criminals at several California Department of Corrections prisons and also dealing with hard-nosed New York lawyers where I learned to be suspicious of anything they said especially if it was something that could be helpful to me. That being said GEP completely got me with his sanctimonious do-gooder posts and campaigns but fortunately not for any money. Although I am ashamed that I participated in his threads where he tried to dress up regular Joes trying to run a normal business as crooks, with the exception of Weaver of course.
What does strike me as odd is that JetBlu’s wife could tell he was not a lawyer by overhearing a phone conversation, but did not smell a rat about him being ex SAS/military/James Bond when she actually met him face to face,. The reason I say this is a link to a newspaper story about a court hearing was posted on one of forms here a while back about GEP/Crenlin swicking some kids out of their money on a mail order RC deal. In the story was a picture of him shuffling his fat ass across the street with the posture of a wildebeest and a hair-do that would make Elton john blush, which when I think about it, knowing what I know about GEP now strikes me not of a guy with any military bearing/past but rather a guy that would be more likely to be slipping on a big birds dress and heels than donning khaki fatigues and steel toe cappers.
Please don’t think I am questioning any part of Jetblu’s story, I am most definitely not, I have nothing but sympathy for the horrendous stuff that he has had to go thru and will continue to endure, but I think it’s interesting that his ex, like myself and many others can be completely taken in by a f*&kwit like GEP against our better judgment and what we see in front of us, I wonder what makes us all so gullible, is it the herd mentality or is Crenlin a mastermind at grooming?
I want to be ready for the next chancing bastard that comes my way.
What does strike me as odd is that JetBlu’s wife could tell he was not a lawyer by overhearing a phone conversation, but did not smell a rat about him being ex SAS/military/James Bond when she actually met him face to face,. The reason I say this is a link to a newspaper story about a court hearing was posted on one of forms here a while back about GEP/Crenlin swicking some kids out of their money on a mail order RC deal. In the story was a picture of him shuffling his fat ass across the street with the posture of a wildebeest and a hair-do that would make Elton john blush, which when I think about it, knowing what I know about GEP now strikes me not of a guy with any military bearing/past but rather a guy that would be more likely to be slipping on a big birds dress and heels than donning khaki fatigues and steel toe cappers.
Please don’t think I am questioning any part of Jetblu’s story, I am most definitely not, I have nothing but sympathy for the horrendous stuff that he has had to go thru and will continue to endure, but I think it’s interesting that his ex, like myself and many others can be completely taken in by a f*&kwit like GEP against our better judgment and what we see in front of us, I wonder what makes us all so gullible, is it the herd mentality or is Crenlin a mastermind at grooming?
I want to be ready for the next chancing bastard that comes my way.
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I think it's more down to the hope (derived from GA being a 'community') that no matter what arguments we have with others, there is mutual respect enough not to **** on each other to the extent this parasite has.
I think it's more down to the hope (derived from GA being a 'community') that no matter what arguments we have with others, there is mutual respect enough not to **** on each other to the extent this parasite has.
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Thanks Guys
It was good to hear that I was not the only one suckered in.
Makes me feel not so stupid, so thanks, but a valuable lesson has been learned.
I wish I could teach it to my young son. Young people are in dangerous waters from an earlier and earlier age. You try to keep them safe but with internet con artists like Crellin around, you can just hope.
It was good to hear that I was not the only one suckered in.
Makes me feel not so stupid, so thanks, but a valuable lesson has been learned.
I wish I could teach it to my young son. Young people are in dangerous waters from an earlier and earlier age. You try to keep them safe but with internet con artists like Crellin around, you can just hope.
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Crellin not only conned Jetblu s wife he also infiltrated the very heart of pprune and gained Towers absolute confidence!
Towers is a clever man so don't underestimate the manipulative abilities of Crellin or his total lack of conscience in using people's suffering for his own ends
Pace
Crellin not only conned Jetblu s wife he also infiltrated the very heart of pprune and gained Towers absolute confidence!
Towers is a clever man so don't underestimate the manipulative abilities of Crellin or his total lack of conscience in using people's suffering for his own ends
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(you couldn't make this up) He leaves the house with private and confidential information/Driving Licence/Passport details/my aircraft logbooks/maintenance records/laptop containing aircraft accounts, and off he departs into the moonlight with tens of thousands of pounds of my property.
e on a anonymous Forum.Surely, if he took "tens of thousands of pounds of my property" without your permission, then that must be theft? I suppose the only grey area is that your wife let him in willingly and probably allowed him to take the stuff away, bummer!
As to GEP duping us all, is everything he said about the Ginger one a load of old made up tosh or was any of it remotely true?
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Difference between the Weaver saga and the Kevin Crellin saga is that Weaver remains with a blemish free record and no criminal record!
Kevin Crellin was found guilty in a court of law and was on probation!
I find it hard to understand why the Kevin Crellin saga is taking so long to come to a conclusion with the police ?
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Difference between the Weaver saga and the Kevin Crellin saga is that Weaver remains with a blemish free record and no criminal record!
Kevin Crellin was found guilty in a court of law and was on probation!
I find it hard to understand why the Kevin Crellin saga is taking so long to come to a conclusion with the police ?
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I have a whole load of images of the damage to JetBlues aircraft taken by the Fire Brigade officer on the request of Crellin who apparently required them as the approved maintenance company in order to assess the repairs needed.........
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421C & Evanelpus - Counsel already spoken with and I will refrain from posting sensitive information. Unfortunately/fortunately, people do turn to these forums for help, and I will remain to do the best I can. Thank you for wishes and advice. 
Pace - all the threats and the ferry scams are true. Some of your info is not correct in your last post.
Bose-x - That is interesting. You are the 3rd person to report this. As we know, Crellin went under the disguise of a solicitor/SAS intelligence/CAA examiner/testpilot/policeman/insurance investigator/UAV specialist/IT specialist/aircraft owner/Mason/Aircraft maintenance company.
Believe it or not, he also called my hospital posing as a solicitor.
Pace - all the threats and the ferry scams are true. Some of your info is not correct in your last post.
Bose-x - That is interesting. You are the 3rd person to report this. As we know, Crellin went under the disguise of a solicitor/SAS intelligence/CAA examiner/testpilot/policeman/insurance investigator/UAV specialist/IT specialist/aircraft owner/Mason/Aircraft maintenance company.
Believe it or not, he also called my hospital posing as a solicitor.
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I stand to be corrected but Weaver has never faced a court of law under criminal charges neither has he been convicted?
He may have a court order to repay business debts but that is totally different!
Kevin Crellin was charged with Criminal activity was found guilty and was on probation!
If you know more and I am wrong feel free to clarify
Pace
I stand to be corrected but Weaver has never faced a court of law under criminal charges neither has he been convicted?
He may have a court order to repay business debts but that is totally different!
Kevin Crellin was charged with Criminal activity was found guilty and was on probation!
If you know more and I am wrong feel free to clarify
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Just a thought: What possible motive did GEP/Crellin have for joining Pprune in the fist place?
I understand that he was previously ripping off RC modelers and see a remote connection, but was he a pilot? And further, as it was not him who started the Weaver thread, what motive did he have for acting as the Chief Investigating Officer? Surely his opportunity to effect a scam here only came about after Jetblu's tragic accident.
I understand that he was previously ripping off RC modelers and see a remote connection, but was he a pilot? And further, as it was not him who started the Weaver thread, what motive did he have for acting as the Chief Investigating Officer? Surely his opportunity to effect a scam here only came about after Jetblu's tragic accident.
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Kevin Crellin is a fraudster, manipulative and a Liar! Not only did he take in forum members but he also penetrated the heart of Pprune taking in Towers who gave him absolute support and protection.
Ghengis was removed for identifying his approximate location and was ejected for doing so yet Kevin Crellin alias GEP held no official position in Pprune!
He held no position but wealded a lot if power!
I am sure that originally it was that self importance that attracted him to the forum as well as the game of manipulating people to his wishes.
Then being the fraudster he is he could not resist using situations to extract money / as simple as that! He has no morals. No conscience and will use other people's suffering for his own gain!
W a saint in comparison to this low life
I am sure people like that with no conscience are such good play actors in convincing others that they end up convincing themselves a trait both Crellin and W shared the difference being Crellin had no conscience and was power hungry over others
Pace
Ghengis was removed for identifying his approximate location and was ejected for doing so yet Kevin Crellin alias GEP held no official position in Pprune!
He held no position but wealded a lot if power!
I am sure that originally it was that self importance that attracted him to the forum as well as the game of manipulating people to his wishes.
Then being the fraudster he is he could not resist using situations to extract money / as simple as that! He has no morals. No conscience and will use other people's suffering for his own gain!
W a saint in comparison to this low life
I am sure people like that with no conscience are such good play actors in convincing others that they end up convincing themselves a trait both Crellin and W shared the difference being Crellin had no conscience and was power hungry over others
Pace
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Pace I have asked in previous posts not to introduce A. nother previous poster, in fear of potentially muddying the waters.
You and I were both fooled, but unfortunately, ahead and behind us is a long and lustrous queue of similar and smarter people whom believed his every word.
I cannot go into great depth, but I can offer this. Both the CAA and AAIB
knew Crellin from the outset. They also knew his geographic location. Think about it. Admittedly, the insurance company were greatly shocked when they discovered that David Henderson was Kevin Crellin, as were many many other people, but as I said, some already knew.
The most frightening and terrifying experience for me during intensive care, having come out of the coma, was hearing the messages from visitors relayed to me via Crellin. Unable to respond due to the tracheostomy, my only communication was the blood pressure and heart rate monitor which went through the roof. I laid in that bed for weeks helplessly knowing that he had masterminded scams.
You and I were both fooled, but unfortunately, ahead and behind us is a long and lustrous queue of similar and smarter people whom believed his every word.
I cannot go into great depth, but I can offer this. Both the CAA and AAIB
knew Crellin from the outset. They also knew his geographic location. Think about it. Admittedly, the insurance company were greatly shocked when they discovered that David Henderson was Kevin Crellin, as were many many other people, but as I said, some already knew.
The most frightening and terrifying experience for me during intensive care, having come out of the coma, was hearing the messages from visitors relayed to me via Crellin. Unable to respond due to the tracheostomy, my only communication was the blood pressure and heart rate monitor which went through the roof. I laid in that bed for weeks helplessly knowing that he had masterminded scams.
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Ok will keep away from "another" : ) I must say I was suspicious of Crellin from the word go something did not quite add up! I was also suspicious with the donation as he made such a big deal of how many donators liked to remain anonymous but I took that risk as my donation was the price of a good meal out for 2! I would have been far more cautious and followed GEPs advice of due diligence ( what a joke now ) had the donation been large.
Crellin was overly keen to meet up but again instincts got me to cancel! I am glad I did or otherwise I am sure I was to be setup for another scam.
When will you go flying again ? I bet you have lots of offers from other pilots willing to take you for a ride ?
Pace
Ok will keep away from "another" : ) I must say I was suspicious of Crellin from the word go something did not quite add up! I was also suspicious with the donation as he made such a big deal of how many donators liked to remain anonymous but I took that risk as my donation was the price of a good meal out for 2! I would have been far more cautious and followed GEPs advice of due diligence ( what a joke now ) had the donation been large.
Crellin was overly keen to meet up but again instincts got me to cancel! I am glad I did or otherwise I am sure I was to be setup for another scam.
When will you go flying again ? I bet you have lots of offers from other pilots willing to take you for a ride ?
Pace
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Crellin/Henderson is in court today for multiple counts of fraud.
Fir some reason every thread that mentions him gets deleted. I am starting to think he gas one if the moderators kids locked up in a basement somewhere.......
edit: Now in touch with the forumite and understand the reasons. It would still be useful for a mod to state a reason why on closure of the thread rather than create an air of cover up.
Fir some reason every thread that mentions him gets deleted. I am starting to think he gas one if the moderators kids locked up in a basement somewhere.......
edit: Now in touch with the forumite and understand the reasons. It would still be useful for a mod to state a reason why on closure of the thread rather than create an air of cover up.
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Exactly the reasons you've been told Bose and more importantly you've been told by one of the people we've been assisting rather than us. Police and legal advice to ensure the best chance of success with the present 4 fraud charges and the next set of charges after those.
In the light of the previous sentence this thread in particular will not be the subject of speculation and comment.
UPDATE: The brief, preliminary hearing this morning resulted in the case being listed again in mid March for mention, plea and directions.
In the light of the previous sentence this thread in particular will not be the subject of speculation and comment.
UPDATE: The brief, preliminary hearing this morning resulted in the case being listed again in mid March for mention, plea and directions.
