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Old 29th Jul 2011, 12:16
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Manchester crash reported BBC

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BREAKING NEWS:

Light aircraft strikes two properties in Greater Manchester - two people reported injured
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A plane has crashed into two houses in Greater Manchester, police have said.


Officers were called to Newlands Avenue, Peel Green, Salford, at about 12:20 BST following reports a plane had collided with several properties.
When they arrived at the houses, near Barton Aerodrome in Irlam, they discovered a light aircraft had come down and hit two properties.


It is understood two passengers who were in the aircraft are being treated for serious burns.
A cordon is in place.


The A57 Liverpool Road is closed after junction 11 of the M60.
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This is less than 2 nm from Barton Airfield.
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Breaking: Light aircraft crashes into two houses close to Barton airfield | Manchester Evening News - menmedia.co.uk


A light aircraft has crashed into two houses close to Barton Airfield in Peel Green, Salford.

Early reports suggest that two people were onboard the plane and both suffered burns. One of them is seriously injured.

The light aircraft came down at about 12.20pm on Newlands Avenue which is just 300 metres from the edge of the airfield.

It is not known if the plane had just taken off or was heading in to land at the airfield.

Emergency services are currently at the scene and the road has been cordoned off.

Early reports suggest that two people were onboard the plane and both suffered burns. One of them is seriously injured.

There are no reports of any casualties in the houses.

Eyewitness Luke Taylor, 16, was in the living room of his house on nearby Southlands Avenue with mum Jayne and sister Jodie when they heard 'a massive bang'.

Luke said: "It was huge. We knew what it was with the airport being so close. It looks like it's gone up and come down again. The houses are in a mess - the top half has been demolished.

"They have taken people out of the houses and they look to be alright. Apparently the people who were on the plane are still there.

"The police and ambulances were there within a few minutes. There's a helicopter trying to land on the street. It doesn't look like anybody has been taken away yet."

The A57 is closed in both directions and diversions are in place.

A spokesman for GMP said: "Just after 12.20pm on 29 July, police were called to Newlands Avenue following reports a plane had come down onto houses.

"Officers attended and discovered a light aircraft had come down and collided with two properties.

"A cordon is in place and the other emergency services are also working at the scene.

"It is not known what injuries people have suffered at this stage."
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There are two Newlands Avenue in Salford one M30 one M44 post code areas. Given that the A57 is closed between Junc 11 on the M60 motorway and the junction with Crossfield Road i believe the M30 post code are Newlands Avenue is the site of the crash - which is as per the MEN site about 300yds from Barton Airfield.


ps I see Sky have the wrong one on their site

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Apparently the aircraft was a Piper Tomahawk...
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I just got back from Barton.

I was finishing off an RT written test, when the aircraft crashed. An instructor came in and told us one of the local aircraft, a Tomahawk, had gone down in smoke near the runway. One of the 09 runways was in use.

We came out of the office, and you could see smoke coming up from the residential area east of the field. The smell was awful (wind blowing it towards us).

Definitely not a sight I'll be forgetting in a hurry...

The aircraft had suffered an engine failure after take off. Apparently, it was only a few hundred feet AGL when it attempted a left turn, probably stalling as a result.

It was chaos with the roads in the area, everything was cordoned off. As I use public transport, it was a nightmare getting home.
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Holy Moly.

Hope the two crew will be ok. BBC reports burns in the regions of 60-70 Percent.
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Sounds like the pilot attempted to land in the street after looking at the road. looks wide and long
Stricken plane crashes into Salford housing estate > Local News > News | Click Manchester

Love how an anonymous remark on a forum turns into "A pilot who crashed into two houses may have been trying to land the stricken plane on a road after a catostrophic engine failure, experts say."
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One expert on a respected professional pilot's website wrote: "Sounds like the pilot attempted to land in the street after looking at the road. Looks wide and long."
*sigh*

The media can be a bunch of morons.
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I used to fly the Ravenair PA38's out of Barton about 5 years ago, hope the guys are ok! Having an engine failure off 09 is a night mare scenario as there are very few options for a forced landing. Anyone know what the reg was?
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Looks like a Ravenair a/c. Lets hope they are both ok!
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Pilot and passenger injured as light aircraft crashes into houses close to Barton airfield | Salford Advertiser - menmedia.co.uk

The M.E.N. understands that the plane was a single-engine, double-cockpit model about 15ft in length
Oh yeah, those double cockpit tomahawks. I wish I could get that modification on mine to stop me having to share the space with some of my students.
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From the BBC website
"The BBC understands that the plane, being operated by Raven Air, was already on fire as it was taking off."
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Well reading from the article if its 70% and 60% burns is true they are far from OK.

If they do recover its a long hard road to get thier quality of life back.
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Some very conflicting reports on whether the aircraft was on fire before it went down, or if the fire was a result of the impact.

Hopefully the Air Ambulance got them to care quick enough to save them, 60-70% burns will be a long and difficult recovery.
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I know a couple of Ravenair instructors at Barton.
Sad news indeed.
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Ravenair - Aircraft Management, North West England, Liverpool Airport, City Airport Manchester (Barton Aerodrome)

AIRCRAFT ACCIDENT STATEMENT

Posted on: 29th July 2011

Ravenair regrets to announce that an aircraft belonging to Ravenair training fleet was involved in an accident earlier today. (Friday 29th July 2011)

The aircraft involved is a Piper PA38 Tomahawk operating from City Airport (Barton Aerodrome).

The aircraft was a Solo Hire Flight with two occupants onboard, who have been taken to hospital.

The accident happened at 12:19pm (local), close to the airport boundary.

At this stage we do not have any further information but we will release another statement when more information is known.

Update

The two occupants of the aircraft were airlifted by the Air ambulance to Wythenshawe Hospital. We currently do not have any further information regarding their condition.

Our primary concern is for the welfare of the two persons onboard the aircraft and their family and friends. Also for the people affected on the ground by this accident.

We wish to express our gratitude and thanks to all of the emergency services and general public who assisted in the initial moments of the accident.

Further updates will follow when information becomes available.
IIRC, the aircraft involved was G-RVRM.
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Taken from Ravenair's website

STATEMENT FROM RAVENAIR

Posted on: 29th July 2011

Ravenair regrets that an aircraft belonging to its training fleet was involved in an accident today (July 29) when operating from City Airport (Barton Aerodrome).

The PA-38 Tomahawk aircraft was being operated as a solo hire and there were two occupants on board. Both were taken to hospital by air ambulance.

Ravenair director Wayne Barrett said:

"Our primary concern is for the two people who were on board the aircraft, their family and friends, and those affected on the ground.

"We wish to express our gratitude and thanks to all of the emergency services as well as the general public who helped in the initial moments after the accident.

"At this stage it would be inappropriate to speculate about the cause of the accident."


Looks like there were no instructors on board so very unlikely that a student was flying. Media jumping to conclusions just because a 21-year old was on-board....NEHVER
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Thoughts are with the pilots...

Its always close to home when its an aircraft in your the log book...

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