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Old 27th Sep 2009, 07:14
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C172 crash at Humberside yesterday afternoon

Just wanted to say I hope the person who crashed the 172 at Humberside Airport yesterday afternoon is okay. Wreckage looked bad and lucky to get out of that one.
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Reported as a Piper Cherokee elsewhere.........

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Old 27th Sep 2009, 08:03
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Reported as all sorts:

..............edited out by OP........................

and nothing happened here:
http://diamondpilots.*************/2...n-landing.html

are they even the same incident?

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The one linked in the Mail article is several years old.
Not the one mentioned by the original poster.
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Saturday, September 26, 2009

Piper Cherokee PA28 crashes on landing Humberside Airport



THE pilot of a light aircraft had a lucky escape when his plane crashed on landing today.


The Piper aircraft was carrying only the pilot when it got into difficulties on landing at Humberside Airport at about 4.45pm.


Fire crews from Immingham’s East and West fire stations and from Hull attended.


The airport’s own fire crews also helped the pilot to safety.


He has not been identified, but an eyewitness said he was not seriously hurt.


The plane, a Piper Cherokee, was extensively damaged.


Air Accident Investigation officers from the Department of Transport are due to begin an investigation into the cause of the crash.


A Humberside Airport spokeswoman said: "Humberside Airport can confirm that investigations are currently underway into an incident that occurred at 4.45 today. The incident involved a Piper PA28 aircraft, based at Humberside Airport with one crew on board.


The airport’s Fire and Rescue Service were called to the scene as a precautionary measure."


She added: "The airport remains operational. Passengers are asked to check in as normal at this time."


An eyewitness, who did not wish to be named, said: "He was lucky. There were no major injuries, but the plane was badly damaged."


An East Midlands Ambulance spokesman confirmed a team of paramedics attended.
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Old 27th Sep 2009, 08:36
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Correct. this incident occurred yesterday at approx 5.00pm, No fire, 1, possibly 2 pob, didn't find out. Happened at rwy 26 threshold.

Was told it was a 172 although it was behind us so never saw it. Not a lot left of it afterwards though. Just glad the pilot was ok. Nothing much worse than having to go flying straight after having been held due to a crash!

Very interested in the cause of this crash for a number of reasons.
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Originally Posted by CRX
The one linked in the Mail article is several years old.
Not the one mentioned by the original poster.
Thanks, I did wonder, although the Mail page was dated with yesterday's date. I've edited it out.
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quote from an online news report,

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I took my 2 and a half year old son to view the aircraft coming and going from Humberside Airport as we do on a regular basis, we were stood behind the boundry fence off runway 26. We seen the aircraft approach the runway over Croxton Road close behind a helicopter returning from the rigs. Everything appeared normal but at the last minute the aircaraft veered right of the runway and the pilot appeared to be putting the power back on and when the aircraft got to about 30 feet off the ground it roled to the right and nose dived straight into the ground and finishing on its roof. To my amazment the pilot immerged from the wreckage 3 or 4 minutes after he hit the ground and he appeared to be unhurt. The frustrating part was that I was approximatley 300 yards from the piolot but I had no idea if air traffic control or the emergency services were aware of the accident. Just as I was about to call 999 a small helicopter arrived at the scene of the accident and soon after that the airports fire crew were on there way. As far as my son is concerned it was just another day at the airport.
Steven Flaherty, Brigg "
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That person witnessed the crash so it would probably be a good idea to make himself known to the airport authorities. It'll help with the investigation. Hopefully his son won't grow up thinking that normally, helicopters land right way up and planes don't.

We were sitting re-fueling when atc asked if anyone had seen the a/c in question land. The R22 went over to have a quick look at the 26 threshold and reported an a/c down. Fire crews responded immediately.
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We were sitting re-fueling when atc asked if anyone had seen the a/c in question land. The R22 went over to have a quick look at the 26 threshold and reported an a/c down.
That suggests that ATC can't see the 26 threshold. That can't be right.
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Old 27th Sep 2009, 17:52
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Not sure if from the tower you can see the threshold of runway 02 either?? Maybe someone will be along to tell us soon.
I would also think that part of the fire training ground (mock up fire training aircraft etc) lies between the eye line of the tower and the a section of the very end of rwy 26.
I don't go to the tower often so wouldn't know for sure.

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Six years ago when I was training at Humberside if you were holding on the disused runway to the north of 26 the tower probably couldn't see you.Always struck me as a bit odd.

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Hi, im the person that posted that message on the newspaper report, i have been trying to see if there is information regarding the pilots well being and ended up here. I took your advice to make myself available to authorities but I cant get through to anyone at Humberside Airport on the only number I can find and I even tried to contact Manchester Airport but the number there has been busy for the last hour and a half. If you have any information you could give me I will be happy to assist in anyway I can.
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Old 27th Sep 2009, 18:59
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You'd be better with the AAIB

www.aaib.gov.uk

Send them an email and I'm sure an inspector will call.

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Ok, thanks for that, I'll look it up now.
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Old 27th Sep 2009, 19:05
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Glad the pilot is OK.
Know him and the aircraft.

I have always been extra cautious in any approach to 26, always seem to get some wind shear there. I was doing some solo circuit consolidation 3 years ago shortly after my first solo and got caught out. Pulled me over the grass just as I was about to flare. Recovered it but it gave me a lesson I have never forgotten.

Not saying or speculating thats what happened, it just reminded me of what I experienced.
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Safire, I have sent you a PM.
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Old 27th Sep 2009, 20:07
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That suggests that ATC can't see the 26 threshold. That can't be right.
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When I worked at Bumbleside you certainly could see the threshold of 26 (or 27 as it was) and there were CCTV cameras available for the specific purpose of viewing the 02 threshold.
Wind shear and turbulance on the final approach for 26 always has been a known problem, why it's never been published in the UKAIP is a mystery.

It could well be that the Fire Training ground equipment now partially precludes a direct view of the threshold, but I do find it rather odd that ATC didn't see the accident occur or at least the aircraft after it had come to grief.
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where the a'c ended up, and the condition it ended up in, you would have been hard pushed to see it from 100 metres away. the fire training equipment definitely hid it from the tower view.
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I will speculate then...

close behind a helicopter returning from the rigs.
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