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Old 28th Nov 2001, 02:36   #1 (permalink)
 
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Question PPL training /SFH in South Africa

I am going on holiday to SA in Jan/Feb next year and am wondering about the potential for ga flying out there.

My hubby has 400 P1 hours (mostly C172) and I am learning (tho I prefer paragliding) and we would be interested to hire or go "flotilla flying"

Anyone got any ideas?
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Old 28th Nov 2001, 03:21   #2 (permalink)
 
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Prunie

I just got back from doing the same. Before going I posted on the African Aviation forum and got some v. helpful replies - if you visit it and set it to view more than about 15 days back you'll find "SA questions from a UK PPL".

Getting a license conversion is more tedious than the US - I went with a safety pilot instead, partly because of lack of time and also they are in the rainy season and the weather was unreliable, so no guarantee of flying.

We flew (legally) over the centre of Pretoria low level - unusual experience for a UK pilot, and it goes without saying that the views there and across the country were stunning.

As for paragliding - I can't help but think of Table Mountain!!

By the way if you go to Cape Town the tourist trip to Robben Island is a must.

Have fun

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Old 28th Nov 2001, 04:40   #3 (permalink)
 
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Hi Gary

Thanks for the reply, have had a quick search for the African list you mention but havent managed to track it down so far - can you give me the URL.

TIA

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I’m x-South African now flying in the UK. The place is very big so before you start asking about how you might want to start by deciding where you want to fly. A few places that is very nice ad scenic is George and Knysna, with a great airfield. Also Pretoria has its charms and Midrand has a very good airfield with full ATC and a very friendly training college and rentals. Conversions are point many complain about but well worth it. A good place to start your search will be on www.ananzi.co.za . It’s the local web search ad most are listed there.

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PS . Oh and one more point, when flying around Midrand watch the airspace closely and avoid low flying over any squatters camps, you’ll see them as large brown patches, its not unusual for aircraft to be fired on…
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Old 29th Nov 2001, 02:56   #5 (permalink)
 
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Hope this works.

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Forgot to mention how cheap flying - and everything - is in SA

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Old 29th Nov 2001, 14:05   #6 (permalink)
 
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To fly in SA you need to get a validation of your UK PPL and RT licence.
The RT licence is just form filling and fee paying in Johannesburg, PPL validated by writing a law paper (not difficult) and flying one hour with instructor + one hour dual cross country followed by a trip to DCA in Pretoria more form filling and fee paying- cost about 250 Rand + the flying.

addendum, having arrived here in SA and revalidated my licence
The fees for RT Validation at ICASA in Jo'burg - 30 Rand (less than two quid) done while you wait.
PPL Validation (after getting RT Validation and flight test etc) 285 Rand, takes a few hours (at CAA in Pretoria). Flight Test / Nav Ex and Air Law only needed the first time, validation is annual.

[ 10 December 2001: Message edited by: Peter Wyld ]
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Old 31st Jan 2002, 22:27   #7 (permalink)
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Can anyone offer any advice on flight training in South Africa, such as schools, prices etc? I've been having a quick look around the web, and what with the strength of the GBP against the rand ( 1 rand = 6p! ), I think that it might be a good opportunity to do some cheap training.. .If anyone knows of schools that offer JAA certified training, i'd be very interested indeed!

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Old 2nd Feb 2002, 16:32   #8 (permalink)
 
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As yet there is only one flight school in SA that has JAR approval and that is Flight Training College of Africa, based at Grand Central Airport, Midrand, Jo'burg.

They currently offer JAR PPL, CPL and full-time ATPL groundschool.

<a href="http://www.ftc-sa.com" target="_blank">Here</a> is their website,

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Old 11th Feb 2002, 14:57   #9 (permalink)
 
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Question Flight Training in South Africa

Has anyone used the Flight Training College of South Africa? I am considering doing a JAR PPL there, ultimately (hopefully) leading to a CPL/IR any comments?
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Old 11th Feb 2002, 16:00   #10 (permalink)
 
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Has an ok reputation but not the cheapest place around. I think its the only place you can do a JAR PPL in SA. Reasonable sized fleet, mostly new Pipers. Have their own accommodation block nearby so transport not absolutely necessary. You thought about doing SA PPL and converting?, much cheaper places to fly in SA.
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Old 11th Feb 2002, 18:49   #11 (permalink)
 
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Noted your comments thanks, Yes I have thought about doing a SA PPL and then converting but it seemed a lot of hassle if you want to be based in UK. The flight training college of South Africa also seem to do a lot of commercial flight training so I thought it looked a resonable environment to learn in.
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Old 12th Feb 2002, 16:00   #12 (permalink)
 
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Scrot,

Just finished my JAR PPL @ FTC. Had a good time. Good facilities and instructors - you'll neeed more than 4 weeks though.. cost me about 4k total.. .Drop me an e-mail if u want any more info.. .digga
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Old 14th Feb 2002, 22:32   #13 (permalink)
 
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Hi GRpr,

Would like to mail you for some info about Progress and 43 airschool but I can't seem to see how to do this. Do you need a PPRuNe e-mail address first. I already have another e-mail address. . .Hoping to do flying training at one of these two schools.

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Old 15th Feb 2002, 16:51   #14 (permalink)
 
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GRPR,

I trained at Progress ( jun 99 to Jun 2000). Were you there?

There's no email address in your profile.

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Old 4th Mar 2002, 17:20   #15 (permalink)
 
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Cool JAR PPL South Africa

Apologies to all of you out there who must be sick of reading these requests, but here we go again.... .. .About to do my intensive course in SA, 4 weeks to get my PPL. I've paid my deposit already so any comments of, "do it in the UK" will be unfortunately invalid. Best advice from all and sundry would be greatly appreciated. Anything from study well beforehand, to don't wet yourself on your first solo!. .. .Many thanks <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="cool.gif" />
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Old 4th Mar 2002, 22:43   #16 (permalink)
 
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I'd start studying like a mad man now if I were you! Get your teeth into Air Law first and use the questions at the back of the book before you use the Confuser! I'd commit to studying on the flight down there and use as much free time that you have before going to study - keep getting 100% on the Confuser and the Thom questions and then learn to give verbal answers.. .. .After that I'd start on Meteorology and then Technical. A lot of the Navigation and RT you will pick up as you are flying so it will be easier to learn from the books. Human Performance you can leave until last as it's the easiest by far.. .. .By studying now you will make it easier on yourself when you are learning to fly and if you can give your brain a break you will appreciate it as it is very knackering.. .. .I'd also get your medical done over here as this will save you half a day of messing around which you may need when you are there.. .. .Good luck and have fun!. . . . <small>[ 04 March 2002, 18:48: Message edited by: sennadog ]</small>
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GR14.. . .. .I flew in SA during in Jan so here are some pointers. The country is BIG!! also next to nothing in the way of nav aids for XC's and one hill looks much like another so watch your track, times and headings. You WILL be a good navigator at the end... Watch out for thunderstorms in the afternoons. Not unusual to have 3-5 in sight on any given day...Gets pretty turbulent on hot day's,. .apart from that it's a helluva place to fly and the airspace is quieter too... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> ..where are you flying..?. .. ....make sure that you are ready to write an exam anytime you cant fly because of weather..happens more often than you would have thought.... .. .have fun. .Sky
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Old 19th Mar 2002, 00:20   #18 (permalink)
 
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Question PPL South Africa

Firstly just to say ive only just discovered this site but i am amazed at how good this site is!. .. .I am curently studying for a non aviation degree in the UK aged 21. However aviation has always been my dream and i am in the process of deciding to do my PPL in south Africa with a view of going on to get a full commercial licence after uni.. .. .I am aware of the prices of a few schools but i was wandering if anyone had any advice on the matter. Are there any schools i should avoid and are there any ones that may be slightly more expensive but with better value in terms of aircraft, quality of training and facilities.. .. .Any advice on this matter would be much appreciated
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Old 19th Mar 2002, 01:21   #19 (permalink)
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Hi Rob, have you tried the wannabes forum as well as this as they are pretty clued in too about what you want to know.?
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Old 19th Mar 2002, 18:09   #20 (permalink)
 
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Rob,. .To the best of my knowledge, there are very few (one?)JAR compliant schools in SA. Go to . ."www.ftc-sa.com" to see the details of one. If it's of any use to you, I'm hoping to do mine there soon, finishing mid-May, so if you let me know your details, I can let you have an update once I'm back.. .To me it offered the best option. The current Rand rate makes the cost about 3500, including PPL kit, ground school, exams, 4 weeks accommodation in single, en-suite facilities and 45 hours flying in either a PA28, C172 or Diamond Katana. Also 'top-up' hours should you need them over and above the 45 are only about 50 per hour.. .You might be ok with a three week course at your age, but my receptors are a bit rusty at my age, which is why I went for a 4 week course, with lots of pre-course reading!. .. .Best of luck! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="cool.gif" />
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