Atlantic Crossing & Ferry Flight Insurance
I always carry a dinghy transatlantic. Required kit by Transport Canada (at least) for starters. If you get ramp checked in Iqaluit (unlikely admittedly) where are you going to find one there ?
Bloody nuisance too; heavy, bulky and how do you get it back again across the Atlantic by scheduled with CO2 cartridges included ? Answer : you cannot, not legally anyway and the potential financial penalties if caught doing this are set at bankruptcy level IIRC.
When it comes to deployment will your raft work as advertised ? Indeed, will your fingers work at currently prevailing temperatures out there (I crossed last week) ? Having worked, will your raft be ripped from your grasp by a boisterous 40kt breeze and disappear inconveniently over the horizon ? Probably.
Yes, there are those that fly without rafts and some even fly without immersion suits too. But then if you have no suit you won't need a raft. And a suit not worn while flying oceanic is about as good as having no suit at all.
But I carry both and just hope that my crossings will be really boring from an operational point of view. So far, so boring ...
SI
Bloody nuisance too; heavy, bulky and how do you get it back again across the Atlantic by scheduled with CO2 cartridges included ? Answer : you cannot, not legally anyway and the potential financial penalties if caught doing this are set at bankruptcy level IIRC.
When it comes to deployment will your raft work as advertised ? Indeed, will your fingers work at currently prevailing temperatures out there (I crossed last week) ? Having worked, will your raft be ripped from your grasp by a boisterous 40kt breeze and disappear inconveniently over the horizon ? Probably.
Yes, there are those that fly without rafts and some even fly without immersion suits too. But then if you have no suit you won't need a raft. And a suit not worn while flying oceanic is about as good as having no suit at all.
But I carry both and just hope that my crossings will be really boring from an operational point of view. So far, so boring ...
SI
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Ferry fligth
Hellow,
Im not shure about the requirements for that trip,
But i can recomend you a person with 65 years experience on ferrying.
Jim Hazelton,
+61265617205.
He will be the one to give you all the info that you need .
Cheers.
Im not shure about the requirements for that trip,
But i can recomend you a person with 65 years experience on ferrying.
Jim Hazelton,
+61265617205.
He will be the one to give you all the info that you need .
Cheers.
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Atlantic Crossing & Ferry Flight Insurance
If you havent got sorted yet, try pik west insurance. They will cover it as a one off high risk policy. All the UK companies usually require at least 5 oceanic crossings before they will consider covering it. Remember you will need additional 25000 search and rescue cover for Iceland. I suggest reading the North Atlantic Ops manual. That will detail your requirements and you can download it for free. I guess some may class it as easy but if you get a bad forecast or arent really clued up on the weather systems then you could have a really bad day. The insurance companies require experience for good reason. We do these crossings on a regular basis so if you require any further free advice, please send me a pm. Also there is a requirement for HF radio which requires a 337 as a temporary install. Now generally going westbound it doesnt seem to be policed to the same degree as eastbound ferries. If routing further North where VHF coverage is assured for most of the route then HF is not a requirement. Without HF its not permissible to fly IFR through Gander controlled airspace and routing further north would be required unless you stayed below 5500ft and the chances of remaining in vmc would be slim, even in the summer.
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I made numerous, is there any in particular that your not happy with and I will attempt to validate it. Cant say fairer than that eh.
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Southern Route
You guys might want to consider the Southern Route (Africa-Brazil)
Water temps are more amenable
, and guaranteed tailwind (10-20kts).
Drawbacks: No SARS and plenty of water. TCU.
Water temps are more amenable
, and guaranteed tailwind (10-20kts).Drawbacks: No SARS and plenty of water. TCU.
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Just a wild thought for those struggling to get insurance:
If you have a N-reg aircraft your insurance will cover North America. Now call an insurer in the UK, insure the aircraft in Europe as well. Canada is North America, Greenland is Europe. Now do the crossing. Cancel one of the policies after successful crossing.
Right?
If you have a N-reg aircraft your insurance will cover North America. Now call an insurer in the UK, insure the aircraft in Europe as well. Canada is North America, Greenland is Europe. Now do the crossing. Cancel one of the policies after successful crossing.
Right?
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If you insure in Europe the limits will almost certainly be Iceland to the West and roughly the Urals to the East.
So even if you have both policies the legs from Canada to Greenland and Greenland to Iceland are very likely to be excluded from coverage.
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Well, the reg only in as much as it's impossible to insure a G-reg or any European reg in the US (I've tried - they don't touch anything but N-reg). The opposite however is not true.
Could you not snooker your European underwriter to include cover for Greenland?
Could you not snooker your European underwriter to include cover for Greenland?
Definitely worth a try. First step would be to find the PRECISE point at which your US insurance stopped, and then get your EU cover to start at that exact point. Good luck!
Sam.
Sam.
Doing this again in June 2014, UK-Canada.
Got a spare seat...
sorry, easy way to answer the questions - flying on to OshKosh...
...then back at some stage (clearly!).
Cheers, Sam.
Got a spare seat...
sorry, easy way to answer the questions - flying on to OshKosh...
...then back at some stage (clearly!).
Cheers, Sam.
