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Old 16th August 2008, 15:19   #1 (permalink)
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Frustrated with this damned summer

Tafs today London north, 170/7 9999. Cobblers.
If it isnt drizzle, rain, poor vis then its gusting 45 knots across the runway.
Looks like May and September are the hour building months. Have done just
3 hours since May on IMC training. Anyone else getting frustrated?

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Old 16th August 2008, 18:11   #2 (permalink)
 
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Yep...

...and the weather doesn't help much!

Agreed Wx is PANTS, but 3 Hours IMC, since may.....????? I've done 5 trips with one student since the beginning of August. No problems in that department.
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Old 16th August 2008, 19:06   #3 (permalink)
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Have done just
3 hours since May on IMC training
Something else must be going on. Is the instructor looking for perfect days?
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Old 16th August 2008, 21:05   #4 (permalink)
 
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Recently it seems that whenever I have an aircraft/instructor booked, the weather closes in. Then I can't rebook for a week because of availability. And a week is too long to get a reliable forcast, so inevitably I end up with another crp day!
A tip for anyone here would be, don't book an aircraft on a day that I'm going flying!
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Old 16th August 2008, 22:22   #5 (permalink)
 
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so inevitably I end up with another crp day!
But isn't that exactly what you're looking for for IMC training?
Sounds like this summer ought to be working out just perfectly for you.
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Old 16th August 2008, 22:52   #6 (permalink)
 
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Anyone else getting frustrated?
AFFIRM! ..... this summer has been largely a write off so far in Scotland as well esp for purely VMC pilots - flyable days few and far between .... low cloud, drizzle, mist, thunder pours, torrential rain, then add in aircraft availablility, own availability and you are looking at a flight every 6-8 weeks.

Global warming ... can we have some up here please?

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Old 17th August 2008, 01:17   #7 (permalink)
 
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I can't see a problem with the weather
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Old 17th August 2008, 08:46   #8 (permalink)
 
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Global warming ... can we have some up here please?
What makes you think that's not what we're getting! The only change that's been predicted with any confidence is that GW will make the weather more unstable.
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Old 17th August 2008, 10:19   #9 (permalink)
 
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soay said....

"What makes you think that's not what we're getting! The only change that's been predicted with any confidence is that GW will make the weather more unstable."

Aviate adds......

Seeing as the GW alarmists have said GW will produce droughts/flooding/less,more hurricanes/melting/freezing etc there isn't any weather that GW isn't linked to! Stable or unstable.....

Now we have Peter Tatchell [Grauniad Greenie] claiming [with absolutely no proof] that oxygen levels are falling as a result of fossil fuel burning! When will this utter madness end?
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Old 17th August 2008, 10:29   #10 (permalink)
 
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Perhaps it's a matter of the focus. If the weather is too poor to go do cross country training, and you have strong gusty crosswinds, perhaps today's the day to grab an instructor and work on your crosswind landings. Perhaps it's not an obstacle, but an opportunity.
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Old 17th August 2008, 11:50   #11 (permalink)
 
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Wx

Hi Guys,

Between 2004 and 2006 I was working to renew a licence that had been expired for over 40 years.

I pretty soon realised that two out of three of my lesson bookings were failing to take place because of Wx.

So I got into the habit of booking three times as many bookings as I wanted and that worked a treat.

I'm not sure Gobal Warming is the entire cause of the crap Wx: exactly the same thing happened in 1960. I did my entire PPL in 21 days in glorious weather during June, (and this was in Manchester of all places; Britain's rainforest!). After the beginning of July, however, we had wet, squaly weather for months until the Autumn started.

In 1967 I returned to gliding at Booker and tried to get my gliding up to a decent standard. I booked two weeks holiday planning to spend it all at the gliding site. 'Same thing happened: after a few days good flying weather the monsoon broke and that was it for the rest of the summer.

Nowadays, I have a strong preference for winter flying, which I find to be far better than summer flying because of cool, stable atmospheric conditions. 'Much better.

Broomstick.
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Old 17th August 2008, 17:53   #12 (permalink)
 
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Bad weather this weekend?

My flying (all VFR in VMC):

Saturday
Upfield Farm (South Wales) to Damyns Hall Essex
Damyns Hall Essex to Maypole Kent
Maypole Kent to Brock Farm Essex
Overnight at MIL's

Sunday
Brock Farm Essex to Upfield Farm South Wales.

Total distance flown 320 NM
Total flying time 3 hrs 05 mins.

A bit gusty but superb vis. Pretty good weather in my view

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Old 17th August 2008, 21:26   #13 (permalink)
 
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I appreciate we have not been lying about in the sun. But really it hasn't been that bad.

I cannot help but think that forecasters are terrified of going a Michael Fish and so seem to play very safe.

This weekend (well technically a long weekend because it included Friday) two aircraft covered over 1100 miles each and the only 'bad' weather was within 20 miles of home!

Cracking weekend really - And if you get the chaqnce do go to the Scaffren Diest fly-in
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Old 18th August 2008, 20:43   #14 (permalink)
 
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I'm with G-EMMA and Broomstickpilot...so to speak.......

This summer is about as rubbish as last summer when July was a wash out or too windy. I was doing my PPL and spent most of July waiting for a day for my crosscountry and, later, for my test.

The only saving grace for the summer of '08 - for me at least - is that it hasn't had much effect on my hour-building, CPL or MEP rating. It seems that CPL Instructors are much more willing to fly in poor conditions as you can always fly round the showers and the pilots and aircraft are more capable of negotiating the conditions.

Still, much sympathy to all those trying to get up in the air, but failing for one reason or another...
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Old 18th August 2008, 21:17   #15 (permalink)
 
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gasax, You are lucky, the forecasts lately have been not too bad up there. I've been trying to get to Eshott / Fishburn for weeks but I don't want to stay there for a fortnight. Sunday I think I exceeded the crosswind limit but survived, won't try that again! Sunday before that I got chased out of a CB that I thought was a rain squall till I stuck my nose in it, won't try that again either! All in all a crap summer. Come back 1995. As for global warming, I don't believe a word of it. Didn't the Romans refer to this country as "That wet misty island north of Europe"?
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Old 18th August 2008, 21:41   #16 (permalink)
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21/04/08 - Date.

Lessons booked - 34

Actual hours - 7

EGNC.

Nuff said.

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Old 18th August 2008, 21:45   #17 (permalink)
 
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As for global warming, I don't believe a word of it.
Do you mean that you don't believe it's happening, or that human activity is causing it?

The evidence is so overwhelming that global warming is under way that even those scientists who dispute the cause can agree on that. The Bush administration was one of the last outposts of denial, and now they have conceded that fact, you know it must be true!
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Old 18th August 2008, 22:03   #18 (permalink)
 
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Bad weather this weekend?
That's because I wasn't flying at the weekend!

The thing with global warming is, us poor Brits get none of the warming! Melting ice sending North Atlantic currents haywire, etc... So all we get between now and when the entire country sinks is more cold, damp, windy, unsettled weather, great!
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Old 18th August 2008, 22:09   #19 (permalink)

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IMC training??

That's what I'm doing right now.

Zero weather cancellations.

Weather no problem, just fly through it, that's the whole point of IMC training (it's not as if the freezing level is low enough to worry about).

So, 30 knots across the runway plus gusts? - who cares, the instructor can do the landing, I'm there for the instrument flying.
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Old 19th August 2008, 00:49   #20 (permalink)
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As for global warming, I don't believe a word of it.

Do you mean that you don't believe it's happening, or that human activity is causing it?

I don't think the way it is described is correct, "our fault, industry, the motor car, aviation etc" I believe it has been creeping up on us for thousands of years, since Neanderthal started to cut down trees, I don't think there is anything we (today man) can do about it because we have left it far too late. Quoting GW is in my opinion a knee jerk method of raising taxes, prices, restrictive laws & the like. The fact that modern technology has allowed us to detect it doesn't mean it only started yesterday.

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