Guys if you could continue via PM that would be appreciated.
Fixed Wing 51, your posts will continue to be deleted as you have nothing positive to contribute to the thread other than have a pop at me, not only on here but PM'ing people too.
What you are asking for/saying in the deleted posts should be either PM'ed to me or you could email me with your concerns.
To reply to this comment by myself could you please PM or email me and we will discuss it further then. Thank you.
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Apologies for my temerity in posting about actual aviation facilities at Oban Coll & Colonsay. For those that are interested, the licences for the three airfields are now on the CAA website (Aerodrome Standards). However the Schedule 1s (maps of the airfields) are not published, and so far there is nothing in the AIP or its future amendments.
I don't suppose anyone has a copy of the Schedule 1 maps which form part of the licences for any/all of the three? Trying to get a feel for how much room there is for other aircraft when the Islander's in.
Thanks sas. The licences are dated 5 June so they've had >3 weeks.
Looks to me like there's a gravel (?) area adjacent to the tarmac apron at Colonsay. I was hoping that light a/c could be pushed back on to that for parking, to give max room for the Islander to manoeuvre.
No, there is no gravel or any other area for aircraft to be parked outside the circular apron at both airfields. At Colonsay there is a small fenced off area on the grass with large concrete tie down blocks for the Laird's aircraft. Coll has a real problem with greylag geese; they are now resident the whole year on the island, inhabit the airfield, crap all over everything and are practically impossible to scare away...
Glenforsa was immaculate as usual and Oban very friendly and helpful.
I am fairly new to PPRuNe and was surprised at all the back biting and bitching on this and other Oban related threads.
I can imagine that those who are personally involved with the various airfields in question may feel that this is a good platform for personal attacks but it does seem to all be a bit much....
I have been flying into Oban and the outer Isles for years and can only see improvements in most areas and there have been good days and bad, like having a friendly (and a fair bit of p##s taking) chat over a jammy dodger or on the other hand being told that next time I should uplift more fuel and that thirty litres was hardly worth the effort of starting the bowser, and that part was serious.
I think that there`s not much good coming out of these particular threads but then hey, who cares? We are are all entitled to our little rant and I have had mine....
I love flying in this area and just hope that when I land next time my experience will not be tarnished by overhearing the tittle tattle that seems to have been exasperated on here.
Have you bought a packet of jammy d's recently - you got them and the tes/coffee free I suspect - and do you know how little is made by suppliers on a litre of fuel these days..... you probably ate and drank the profit and were entertained as well....alll for thirty litres, who's taking the p**s,tuscan?
But don't worry you'll be welcomed back, so keep enjoying the flying in this wonderful area and ignore the tittle tattle.
Moan moan Moan , in the old days when fees were paid in the hut I always left my share of jammy change and even washed the cups.
I even used to uplift as much as I could at the irritation of the club who`s aircraft I had taken out for the day(who also supplied fuel), anything to help
Glad to hear I am welcome back although I`m not sure I outstayed my previous but who knows.
I`m heading off to the Alps for a few weeks next Thursday but look forward my next visit some time in August.
Most if not all clubs offer free T and bites to all visiting pilots. So in the past your offered T and jammy dodgers at Oban and your taking the P__S for accepting them. Oban is better now than it was before and that's a fact. Nothing against Paul. Its a pity so much money has been wasted but that's life. You know where you can stuff your Jammy Dodgers.
I accept that a runway has been lost and some lighter aircraft may not be albe to visit under certain X wind conditions. However the new tarmac runway is a cracker.
One of the reasons Oban has not won any prizes recently has more to do with the constant negativity posted here. Of course the numbers are down, I flew in a few months ago and posted my delight at the friendly service and good facilities and was rebuked for saying so. Some encouragement for other pilots to pay a visit to the new Oban.
Of course many mistakes have been made by the council and I'm sure they know it. Constantly knocking Oban and the visiting pilots will not do any good to the long term future of Oban.
So I repeat, Oban is better than before in my opinoin as a visiting pilot.
“I flew in a few months ago and posted my delight at the friendly service”
As did I.
From my perspective as a visiting pilot the loss of the runway makes it less good. I agree the tarmac is 1st class, but as I operate from a farm strip this is not something I care much about. I am not knocking Oban, it is still a good place to fuel up, but it is not as good as it was before all the money was spent. This is unfortunate, but true.
Scottish, I can think of a few airfields that do not offer freebies, can I borrow your rose tinted RayBans next time I take a tour of airfields, anyway I think its better to leave something behind for the kitty even if there is no charge, its only good manners.
I too think there are improvements but then all I really want is a descent surface to land on and a friendly chat before leaving.
For a tailwheel pilot like myself with an aeroplane that has a lowish crosswind capability the loss of the second runway, albeit only a few degrees off the main one, is a serious loss of utility. However the grass to the east of the disused looked ever so appealing a few weeks ago. A suitable unlicenced alternative perhaps?