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Old 10th June 2008, 23:05   #81 (permalink)
 
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I visited Oban at the weekend and the guys couldnt have been more accommodating
Great. That surely must mean they'll be super-accommodating now they have a licence and an ATZ.
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PS: why no NOTAM on Coll & Colonsay? I realise they don't qualify for ATZs but one might imagine there'd be some notification of their new status.

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Old 14th June 2008, 22:08   #82 (permalink)
 
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great place allway have an interesting trip there and back
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Old 17th June 2008, 15:38   #83 (permalink)
 
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Interesting to see that its now over 24 hours since the first flight finally got off the ground but not a single comment to this post in the last 3 days.

Has everyone gone off the berate/support some other aviation fiasco ?

Whilst we can all question the rights and wrongs we cant turn the clock back. Id like to congratulate A&B on finally achieving their dream and look forward to some form of normality returning to Oban/Glenforsa etc.
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Old 17th June 2008, 15:43   #84 (permalink)
 
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“some form of normality returning to Oban/Glenforsa etc”

I would certainly support that!

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Old 17th June 2008, 21:34   #85 (permalink)
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I have just deleted the last twelve posts.

This thread is for comments on flying to the place. Nothing else. You want to argue again about the politics of it all then go somewhere else or instead of deleting I will simply close it.
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Old 18th June 2008, 05:25   #86 (permalink)
 
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Just to confirm, can one still get fuel at Oban from TLC? I presume that they still operate from the same premises?
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Old 18th June 2008, 06:39   #87 (permalink)
 
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“Just to confirm, can one still get fuel at Oban from TLC? I presume that they still operate from the same premises?”

It was all working very well a few weeks ago when I was last up. Give Paul or the airfield a call to check if you are visiting. I was hoping to fly up to Mull this weekend for another visit, but the forecast is really bad…

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Old 18th June 2008, 07:42   #88 (permalink)
 
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Oban politics

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This thread is for comments on flying to the place. Nothing else.
Does this mean, if the council managed to remove TLC by fair means or foul, we would not get to hear about it on prune, because it would be deemed 'political'?

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Old 18th June 2008, 08:46   #89 (permalink)
 
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Have you tried running & flapping your arms instead Rod?
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Old 19th June 2008, 10:10   #90 (permalink)
 
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Strikes

Thank goodness Oban and Coll and Colonsay are run by ABC rather than Highland and Island Airports. Imagine if after a week of the new plane service that it was stopped because of strike action, like Tiree!

If this happened, then the pessimists would have a field day - Slowly Slowly etc!
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Old 19th June 2008, 10:43   #91 (permalink)
 
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One of ABC's intentions is that the airfields will be run by Highlands and Islands so this is certainly nothing to gloat over. Sooner or later ABC are going to have to address the operational costs, hopefully that will mean something like short periods whilst the airfield is licensed for the scheduled flights and the remainder of the time it would be available for unlicensed operations.

The bigger question is if ABC or HIAL staff strike whether the airfields remain available for aircraft which do not need licensed facilities. Hopefully that would be the case - but given that the staff who would be striking are the people who largely make the operational rules we'll just have to see.
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Old 20th June 2008, 09:07   #92 (permalink)
 
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Oban Politics

I thought that the staff at Oban had previously been on strike, or dont go-slows count?


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Old 23rd June 2008, 02:13   #93 (permalink)
 
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From the Coll and Colonsay NOTAMs:

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ALL AIRCREW AND PILOTS MUST WEAR HI-VIZ WHEN AIRSIDE
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PPR WILL NOT BE GIVEN TO ANY ACFT IF ETA/ETD WOULD CONFLICT WITH SKED MOVEMENTS
Strange [NOT] that no such strictures apply at the Orkney strips, almost all of which have far more regular scheduled services.

Perhaps the Highland Airways pilot has recently failed an eyesight test.

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Old 23rd June 2008, 02:47   #94 (permalink)
 
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Perhaps these airports are run by the council rather than HIAL and they are nervous about a bunch of old boys messing around in their 1940's planes.

I am a great believer in Hi visibility vests at all times, particularly at a small airport that has just started its first ever scheduled service.

The PPR restriction would be for the twenty minutes when the Highland Airways plane is coming in to land with lots of fee paying passengers. Sounds OK to me.
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Old 23rd June 2008, 02:57   #95 (permalink)
 
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old boys messing around in their 1940's planes
Would that be the old boys who were flying in 1940?

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Old 23rd June 2008, 02:58   #96 (permalink)
 
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Ha ha! Some of them might have been!
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Your Lairdship, let me guess - your clan tartan is grey and grey, on a background of grey.

Or perhaps dayglo.

Why on earth do Coll and Colonsay require such OTT measures when far busier VFR airfields do not?

And another thing - "old boys in their 1940s planes" usually have some of the highest degree of airmanship around, I have found.
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Oh FFS.

Hi Viz jackets...........The only people who jump up and down about these are Health and Safety muppets who have no real idea about risk management or what really constitutes proper safety management systems.

This other guff about not allowing traffic that might conflict with a scheduled service has again been written by someone who obviously has never been near the controls of an aircraft and has no concept of what is actually needed for the safe operation of these services.

Basically someone with a highly inflated sense of their own importance, but no real training or understanding has written this rubbish.

Theyounglaird, I'm afraid you have just proven to me that you have no idea of what you are talking about and are simply on here to try and wind people up and get a rise out of them. I think you could be safely called a troll in internet parlance.
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Old 23rd June 2008, 07:41   #99 (permalink)
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I have just closed the Glenforsa thread to make life easier this end.

Now guys, please try and just use this thread for trip reports and the likes of.

I am fed up of sifting through and deleting threads, often followed by loads of PM's from both sides of the fence questioning the descisions. I am getting tired of that and no doubt the admins here who overlook this are too.

If you have nothing to say about visiting the actual airfields then please don't bother. The political side of things will be deleted as they have been in the past but to be honest the way things have gone on the other thread, this one hangs on for it's life by it's fingertips at the moment.
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Old 23rd June 2008, 07:53   #100 (permalink)
 
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Trip reports

But trip reports are so dull. I much prefer a bit of light banter between the old flyers, the nimbies and those with nothing better to do (Slowly Slowly).

Please keep up the interesting posts.
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