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Old 6th July 2009, 23:59   #381 (permalink)
 
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Clearly Spencer Pryor, Director and Secretary of newly formed Obanair Ltd, who was born on 6 March 1957 is no relation to Spencer Hugh Pryor who by a remarkable co-incidence was also born on 6 March 1957.

Spencer Hugh Pryor is a Director of Ecosse Tel Internet Ltd which last filed accounts to 28 Feb 2001 and a Director of Ecosse Telecommunications Ltd and Local Post Ltd, both of which appear to have been dissolved.
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Old 8th July 2009, 20:58   #382 (permalink)
 
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Rumour has it that I will be visiting Oban & Glenforsa in a couple of weeks. Original GF, I look forward to sampling your bar stock, again.

Despite all the shenanigans, many of us will continue to visit this glorious part of the world.
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Old 11th July 2009, 13:42   #383 (permalink)
 
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Latest news from Oban is that, as from 27 August, start-up clearance is required from Oban Info.

I suppose a pilot has to know which way the tug has to do the push-back.

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Old 11th July 2009, 20:58   #384 (permalink)
 
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How can a FISO give a clearance? Is there exceptions?
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Old 12th July 2009, 00:31   #385 (permalink)
 
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At small airfields start up clearance is usually reserved for paradrop operations . Is there going to be para dropping now taking place at Oban, or do they have delusions of push back grandeur?
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Old 12th July 2009, 08:45   #386 (permalink)

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...start-up clearance is required from Oban Info...
Where's the problem?

The Islander flights are commercial and passengers may be being marched out to their flight while somebody else starts up their people mincer next to them.

Or a heli parked into wind and facing away/ unsighted from from another helicopter in the final stages of rotor shutdown, might hit the start button and cause damage to the heli behind.

Sounds like sound risk management.
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Old 12th July 2009, 11:53   #387 (permalink)
 
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and how many Islander Fights are there a day ?

Next will be Follow Me car !
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Old 12th July 2009, 21:51   #388 (permalink)
 
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How can a FISO give a clearance? Is there exceptions?
The owner of the airfield can inpose any conditions he likes, it's his airfield and you use it on his terms.

Go read Rule 40 and Rule 41.

"Clearance" is not a defined term in the ANO or ROAR.

I imagine you are confusing "clearance" with "Air Traffic Control Clearance", which is a defined term
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(b) ‘air traffic control clearance’ means an authorisation by an air traffic control unit for an aircraft to proceed under conditions specified by that unit;
You would have been correct had you suggested that a FISO could not issue an air traffic control clearance.
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Old 13th July 2009, 12:27   #389 (permalink)
 
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Oban: Delusions of Grandeur?

Coll Fire Engine


Perhaps whoever is in charge of these airports should try and get the basics right, such as making sure the fire engines can fit into the fire stations

How will they blame this one on Mr Keegan?


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Old 13th July 2009, 12:30   #390 (permalink)
 
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Don't tell me that this one doesn't fit either......... So that's Oban and Coll that have/had machines that wouldn't fit in the garages. For crying out loud!
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Old 13th July 2009, 12:35   #391 (permalink)
 
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I saw that on Saturday. Presumed they had heard about my landings and were being prepared
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Old 13th July 2009, 15:17   #392 (permalink)
 
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Three points.

1. I don't think that building was designed to house a fire engine.

2. It is an old X reg machine so I guess they got it cheap.

3. Nice to see they capture the rainwater for recycling.

and I guess the whole building and fire engine cost under 50k.
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Old 13th July 2009, 15:33   #393 (permalink)
 
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Oban/Coll Follies

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I guess the whole building and fire engine cost under 50k.
I guess you would be a little less flippant if it was your £50k.

I take it you are not an Argyll & Bute ratepayer?


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Old 13th July 2009, 16:06   #394 (permalink)
 
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Phil Space: Your willingness to give benefit of the doubt is admirable but:
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1. I don't think that building was designed to house a fire engine
Precisely! But it's a little unfortunate that the vehicle which it was designed for can't get in or out because there's a fire engine permanently parked in the drive.
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I guess the whole building and fire engine cost under 50k
Hmmm, on a council capital works budget? I doubt it! No doubt SAS or one of the other regulars on here can tell us the precise figure.
BTW there is no oversize fire truck parked outside the door of the Colonsay terminal so I guess they have one that does fit.
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Old 13th July 2009, 16:16   #395 (permalink)
 
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OK fair comment but...

It makes a lot more sense to have the fire engine outside rather than inside and locked up when an accident happens. I hope it is on the active side of the security fence.

Plus the plans for the terminal will be on the local planning portal so they will state if the building was designed to house a fire engine. The freedom of information act allows access to the cost of the building and fire engine.(secondhand unit..anyone know where it was before?)

By my experience 50 - 75K for what is at best an insulated shed should cover things. The runway is a separate issue.

But perhaps the most important point is that this is an airstrip that serves a population of around 160 people. In winter there are just four ferries a week.

I suspect few of them care about a few private pilots having a go a what the place cost.

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Old 13th July 2009, 16:17   #396 (permalink)
 
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How can a FISO give a clearance?
Errrm, here's how:
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The FISO has the following specific responsibilities:
a) issuing information to aircraft flying in the aerodrome traffic zone to assist the pilots in preventing collisions;
b) issuing instructions and information to aircraft on the manoeuvring area to assist pilots in preventing collisions between aircraft and vehicles and obstructions on the manoeuvring area or between aircraft moving on the apron.
(CAP 410 Part B, Chapter 1, para 2.1)
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5.1 When an aircraft requests start-up or taxi the following information shall be given:
a) altimeter setting;
b) runway in use and circuit direction;
c) outside air temperature (for turbine aircraft only);
d) warnings of marked temperature inversion;
e) surface wind direction and speed, including significant variations.
5.2 It is important to issue precise and clear instructions and information to pilots engaged in taxying aircraft on areas of the aerodrome where instructions from the FISO are permitted.
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Old 14th July 2009, 14:34   #397 (permalink)

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...and how many Islander Fights are there a day ? Next will be Follow Me car !...
How many times does an unwary civvy have to walk into a moving prop before it kills him/her?
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Old 7th August 2009, 18:56   #398 (permalink)
 
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Obanair

The Registered office of Obanair is a 4 flats to a Block Council House in Rutherglen In Glasgow.


Is this a re-incarnation of Neil Robertson??


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Old 19th August 2009, 12:26   #399 (permalink)
 
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Glenforsa

If you have been trying to contact The Glenforsa Hotel, the phone/internet lines are broke. Alternative No: 07850 801 491

Cheers

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Old 20th August 2009, 13:18   #400 (permalink)
 
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What's all the fuss about ? Last time I was in beautiful Glenforsa, they had very kindly grassed over the tarmac, beaten a local deer to death with a baseball bat (very tender venison), and had a very nice 2005 Chablis ( which they only allowed me to nose check the bouquet, since I flew in )
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