I thought this thread was about flying and supporting it.
There is no valid reason why viewers on this site should endorse the actions of any individual or group interfering with “aviation” at this location.
So far, the majority of posts have been side tracked and appear to be supporting disruption here, a bit like mob rule shouting loud and long.
The Council own and operator the airfield and maybe they have made a boob with a boundary lease so let them fix it with the party involved and get it done with.
They must do whatever is required to return the runway to its full intended use.
140KIAS There is lost opportunity as you have said and I believe the Council are looking into this. There is also unnecessary lost opportunity due to the actions of one individual by not sticking to his word to support the Council. What does irritate me is hearing that an individual feel’s vindicated to causing disruption at an airfield.
Jets bring wealthy people so here is the other loss to the local economy.
Why not support aviation and the progress of Oban Airport and leave local politics to the locals.
Would the individual who authorised the erection of the fence please remove it and allow all visitors the right to visit in the aircraft of their choice.
Last edited by Fixed wing 51 : 4th July 2009 at 20:35.
Fortunately, we are still allowed to disagree with the actions of the people who like to think of themselves as our lords and masters.
If the airport management couldn't sort out an issue like this, then what are they paid for. You might have a stroppy tenant, but so what. A compromise could easily be reached.
I haven't been up to Oban for a while, which is a shame as it is one of the finest places to fly into in the country, but when you are responsible for a licenced facility and to the authority, then you need to make sure that issues like this are dealt with BEFORE they affect your operation.
NorthSouth has already explained how private biz jets aren't actually affected by this and frankly I guess there will have to be a whole load of biz jets and rich people coming in to redress the £10million + hole in the books after this.
FW51
Your dead right we have to support aviation. The question is are you going to put a private donation into our local council to support our dinner ladies or our care homes or for the thousand potholes we have on our local roads????
As a local tax payer it leaves a bitter taste in your mouth.. Rant over.
There is no valid reason why viewers on this site should endorse the actions of any individual or group interfering with “aviation” at this location.
FW51.
Isn't this exactly what you are doing by being a leading apologist for ABC?
Who closed the into wind runway?
Who has stopped flying after 18:00?
Who raised landing fees?
Who has driven GA traffic down by 60%?
Who mislead the CAA in order to get Oban licensed?
Once again I have visited this thread to see this totally negative attitude by the same old names towards the airfield, be it knocking the staff, management, or whatever.
If I was in control of the airfield and could identify the trouble makers shall we say, I would ban you all from the field.
It is simple, if you aint happy, leave the field, dont go, take up fishing, oh then maybe don't, you would no doubt cause trouble in that community.
Good job you aren't and that you wouldn't have the power to do so even if you were, especially as most of us "malcontents" are exactly the ones who use the field far more than anyone else or are closely associated with it in other ways.
So keeping on a personal vendetta and allowing the bad feeling between the council and it's tenants to continue is good management is it?
This could all be fixed easily. It just needs the large degrees of muppetry to be toned down and a bit of communication.
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If the GAMA KingAirs and the Learjets referred to are not on public transport flights
For the record...they very much are!
You may not have noticed the "if" at the beginning of the sentence, but thanks for your inside knowledge. I wonder, then, how the Loganair Islanders managed to operate their ambulance flights into unlicensed strips and how numerous business jets etc managed to get in and out of Oban for many years before it even had a licence? Oban's licence was only obtained for the Highland Airways scheduled service. It is not required for any of the other flights that have been going in and out of the place for years.
NS
A quick calculation.....9 million cost @ 5% interest = £450,000 A YEAR !
That means OVER £8,600 a week has to be found , just to pay for the cost of capital.....add on staff, maintenance, repairs and renewals..
What lunatic is running the assylum that collectively decided this was affordable?
Even if the quoted "hundred" movements a week took place, EVERY WEEK OF THE YEAR..... it would price the landings at £150 a pop just to break even-and that's on a very conservativeestimate of running-costs..
If I was a local ratepayer, I too would be incensed.
A few mins on Google reveals what appears to be a failed internet service provider who now runs a cable company in Rutherglen. No obvious sign of an aviation connection, which of course doesn't mean there isn't one.
NS
SAS that looks like the domain registrant information which is most likely the company that created their website.
You can pay to get the directors information but the free info from companies house is: -
Name & Registered Office:
OBANAIR LTD
38 AVONBANK RD
RUTHERGLEN
G73 2PA
Company No. SC360044
Status: Active
Date of Incorporation: 21/05/2009
Country of Origin: United Kingdom
Company Type: Private Limited Company
Nature of Business (SIC(03)):
None Supplied
Accounting Reference Date: 31/05
Last Accounts Made Up To: (NO ACCOUNTS FILED)
Next Accounts Due: 21/02/2011
Last Return Made Up To:
Next Return Due: 18/06/2010
Previous Names:
No previous name information has been recorded over the last 20 years.
Two pilots under the company name of Obanair Ltd are carrying out a feasibility study to look at introducing flights connecting the central belt and the Western Isles via Oban.
The study is likely to take two or three months and if it comes out in favour of the routes, Edinburgh-Oban-Benbecula and Prestwick-Oban-Stornoway, the new service would not be underway until next year at the very earliest.
Spencer Pryor (for it is he!) who is based in Rutherglen and has a background in avaition and market research, along with another director is keen to set up the two routes with Obanair based at Oban Airport.
'We still need to enter into discussions with A&BC regarding Oban Airport and Highlands and Islands Airports Ltd' said Mr Pryor.
'We have flown in and out of Oban Airport as pilots and feel that it is a little under-utilised. If we could do daily flights we would be happy with that but it could be three days a week.'
'The idea is to see if there is a market for it and test the economics of it.'
He is hoping the research will show a demand for a daily service using a small commuter aircraft. Obanair would apply for a Cat B airline operators' licence.
Mr Pryor hoped the services might be able to take advantage of the airline discount scheme to the Western Isles.
I like the 'little under-utilised' bit, I'll agree with him there!
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