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Old 19th Oct 2014, 10:15
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At T2 and T5 LHR, international and domestic passengers are housed together in the same departure area. Domestic passengers have a photo taken at the entry point to security.

The first check upon boarding is LHR security who check you are the person on the stored photograph. I have entered security in uniform and changed to civies in the lounge which had caused endless fun at that boarding photo check.

The second check is the regular airline boarding process, registering that you are onboard, and on the correct flight etc.

Having said all that, the most recent time I flew Aer Lingus from T2, the Aer Lingus gate staff, (Menzies?), completed both checks at the same desk which seemed much less complex.
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Old 21st Oct 2014, 21:57
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I think the thing that annoys me the most is seeing non-regular SLF being shouted at for presenting passport with boarding pass "bookmarked" therein when only the boarding pass is required. Regulars generally know which bit is required when but it's only natural for people to carry them together. Just take the pass out and scan it for heaven's sake. Takes less time than the shouting method. I've seen this happen at three or four UK airports.
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 08:12
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Shouting is the only fun some people get
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 13:09
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Originally Posted by fyrefli
I think the thing that annoys me the most is seeing non-regular SLF being shouted at for presenting passport with boarding pass "bookmarked" therein when only the boarding pass is required. Regulars generally know which bit is required when but it's only natural for people to carry them together. Just take the pass out and scan it for heaven's sake. Takes less time than the shouting method. I've seen this happen at three or four UK airports.
Well I'm a "regular" and I still get shouted at because procedures differ between stations. One trip a while ago from London to Dublin, one was requiring laptops out of bags and the other wasn't (I forget which way round), On the outward I got reprimanded for not having my laptop out all ready (despite there being nowhere on the approach to do this) and wasting the queue's time, and on the return same day I was taking it out and was reprimanded because I was doing so and I shouldn't and I was wasting the queue's time

Likewise presenting the BP to the cabin crew, or not, is varied between must/must not/don't care dependent on a combination of station, carrier, and state of registration requirements.

The worst I witnessed, and sorry to mention names, was the handling agent of Ryanair at Stansted whose mumbled boarding announcement included "passport open at the photo page". The young, fit (although pimply), twenty-something agent proceeded to give a loud and sarcastic reprimand to the elderly, seventy-something, arthritic old lady who had haltingly presented her passport without quite thumbing it open. It quite upset her.
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 13:22
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Originally Posted by McGoonagall
At Schiphol last week it was checked at the bag drop and gate. Hand luggage and it would have been gate only. However, boarding card was shown a few times including buying a box of chocolates.
I used to imagine the showing of BP airside for buying everything was unnecessary as well until I discovered it's nothing to do with security, but is enforced as part of the commercial side's sales analysis of which destinations/ticket class buy which products.

It really is poor that this commercial inconvenience (if you have your BP at the bottom of your bag, or if they are all held by your companion who is elsewhere) is allowed to be masked as a security matter.
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 14:38
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The marketing people have it so sewn up (and the pax so dragooned) that, in the shops, if you refuse to show your boardcard - they won't sell you the goods.
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 17:57
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they tried that on a young Swedish guy at T5 earlier this summer - he then insisted on emptying his enormous carry on and diligently searching for the boarding pass - as the queue built up and people started to put their shopping baskets on the floor and leave the checkout girl asked the guy behind him to "lend" her his BP so she could get rid of the Swede & we could all shop in comfort............................
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 18:29
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What a clever Swede, nice trick.
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 19:47
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I think India deserves a mention on this thread.
My record is THREE passport / booking confirmation checks BEFORE i even got to the check in desk....
I know they've got a growing population that needs employment, but really!!
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 22:00
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It is possible that the "Stasis various" about whom you complain spent the first hours of their training watching all the episodes of "Come Fly With Me", as prime examples of their passenger-handling techniques............................
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Old 25th Oct 2014, 16:02
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The marketing people have it so sewn up (and the pax so dragooned) that, in the shops, if you refuse to show your boardcard - they won't sell you the goods.
I always say that my wife's got the card for safekeeping (often true if we're travelling together) and ask them to wait while I go find her, get the card and come back to the till. Works every time; the "security" need evaporates.

I don't know why I do this; it's easy to show the card. I suppose it's part of my daily fightback against being told lies and/or asked to do things that are totally unnecessary.

And, of course, I am a curmudgeonly, disagreeable old sod when i want or need to be. It's an age thing, and freedom to do it is one of the few pleasures of getting older.
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Old 30th Oct 2014, 17:22
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Riyadh flight to Doha

Once before check in
Once at check in
Again at immigration
Once before getting to the airbridge
Once on the airbridge

The only one that was unusual was the 'on airbridge' one as that was done by a steward from the aircraft - almost as if they thought the Saudis were trying to send them undesirables.
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