ASIC - Surely this must be the end
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ASIC - Surely this must be the end
Soooo.... there are now no RPT aircraft servicing most aerodromes in Australia (or shortly there won't be).
Can we now, as some kind of quasi organised internet blogging aviation interested bunch get a message to the Attorney General to finally drop this idiotic scheme?
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Can we now, as some kind of quasi organised internet blogging aviation interested bunch get a message to the Attorney General to finally drop this idiotic scheme?
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What an awesome example of prioritisation.
Yep, while the government is stretched to the limit, officials swamped in both health and economic concerns, lets use THIS period of world history to push the anti ASIC agenda.
I hate paying for fee too but there’s a time and a place and this ain’t it.
Yep, while the government is stretched to the limit, officials swamped in both health and economic concerns, lets use THIS period of world history to push the anti ASIC agenda.
I hate paying for fee too but there’s a time and a place and this ain’t it.
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Yes Junior,
I was just getting started. While some run around buying up dunny rolls... Priorities eh?
I hope you're ready for the brave new world, there is a lot of shedding going to happen. And while on the subject of history, the governments around the world including this one have used 'challenging' situations to push exactly the agenda they liked... without fear, recourse or consultation. How and why did we get the ASIC in the first place? And the only place I ever got checked was... wait for it... Connellan.
Now is exactly the time to shed the cobwebs.
But then it's interesting to note all defence leave has been cancelled...
How exactly is the government stretched to the limit? I don't see any public servants worrying too much, what I'm hearing is "I'm glad I've got a government job".
I guess (but I don't know)... you'll be ok Junior
I was just getting started. While some run around buying up dunny rolls... Priorities eh?
I hope you're ready for the brave new world, there is a lot of shedding going to happen. And while on the subject of history, the governments around the world including this one have used 'challenging' situations to push exactly the agenda they liked... without fear, recourse or consultation. How and why did we get the ASIC in the first place? And the only place I ever got checked was... wait for it... Connellan.
Now is exactly the time to shed the cobwebs.
But then it's interesting to note all defence leave has been cancelled...
How exactly is the government stretched to the limit? I don't see any public servants worrying too much, what I'm hearing is "I'm glad I've got a government job".
I guess (but I don't know)... you'll be ok Junior
Any changes at all will be driven by a long term reduction in the National Terrorism Threat Advisory. The Department has been pretty clear with industry that there will be no lessening of security requirements at all in the wake of Covid19.
Flippant and childish statements like that do little to give your argument any weight.
I don't see any public servants worrying too much, what I'm hearing is "I'm glad I've got a government job".
What an awesome example of prioritisation.
Yep, while the government is stretched to the limit, officials swamped in both health and economic concerns, lets use THIS period of world history to push the anti ASIC agenda.
I hate paying for fee too but there’s a time and a place and this ain’t it.
Yep, while the government is stretched to the limit, officials swamped in both health and economic concerns, lets use THIS period of world history to push the anti ASIC agenda.
I hate paying for fee too but there’s a time and a place and this ain’t it.
I do notice Junior, that you are VERY opinionated on what people should or shouldn't discuss on here. You're by all means entitled to voice such opinions but please take a moment to reflect on yourself.
Roy it is "oft" stated "thank god I have a Government job" in times of lay off's. I don't see this situation being any different to previous ones. I have family members and friends in these near unsackable or great severance jobs.
There’s nothing wrong at all with wanting to get rid of ASICS, I hate them as much as anyone, they’re nothing but cash rort that do nothing to improve security.
I question the timing.
That said, in a time where aviation is hurting so much, maybe the savings will help.
I question the timing.
That said, in a time where aviation is hurting so much, maybe the savings will help.
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There’s nothing wrong at all with wanting to get rid of ASICS, I hate them as much as anyone, they’re nothing but cash rort that do nothing to improve security.
I question the timing.
That said, in a time where aviation is hurting so much, maybe the savings will help.
I question the timing.
That said, in a time where aviation is hurting so much, maybe the savings will help.
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Any changes at all will be driven by a long term reduction in the National Terrorism Threat Advisory. The Department has been pretty clear with industry that there will be no lessening of security requirements at all in the wake of Covid19.
Flippant and childish statements like that do little to give your argument any weight.
Flippant and childish statements like that do little to give your argument any weight.
It may be that, having wielded practically unfettered powers during this crisis, various pollies and bureaucrats will have ‘got the taste’.
Will be interesting to see how all these rules are going to be enforced. How do heavy fines alter the behaviour of people who have no money? Where will the new gaols be built and who will run them?
What practical security or safety purpose will be achieved by arresting or fining me for arriving at an empty airport with an expired ASIC?
There are plans to turn the airports into makeshift hospitals.
Will be interesting to see how all these rules are going to be enforced. How do heavy fines alter the behaviour of people who have no money? Where will the new gaols be built and who will run them?
What practical security or safety purpose will be achieved by arresting or fining me for arriving at an empty airport with an expired ASIC?
There are plans to turn the airports into makeshift hospitals.
Typical Australian responses here about flaunting the rules. Bit like those who head to Bondi Beach and jump over the barriers.Fight for food and TP in supermarkets.
On Sunday I lost a great friend in Italy to this scourge. He was a national aerobatic pilot and warbird owner and flyer plus supported aviation. His son is a corporate pilot in Italy too.
Let's focus and work to get over this. Medical staff and responders need our support.
BS about ASIC cards etc etc is just that
On Sunday I lost a great friend in Italy to this scourge. He was a national aerobatic pilot and warbird owner and flyer plus supported aviation. His son is a corporate pilot in Italy too.
Let's focus and work to get over this. Medical staff and responders need our support.
BS about ASIC cards etc etc is just that
It’s not about “flaunting” the rules. It’s about critically analysing the rules compliance with which is and is not going to help get us through the crisis.
What practical security or safety (or health) purpose will be achieved by arresting or fining me for arriving at an empty airport with an expired ASIC?
Walk me through the purpose of allowing school kids to be within 1.5 metres of each other at school (and within 1.5 metres of teachers who may be grandparents), but banning them from being within 1.5 metres of each other at the beach or in parks and keeping them away from their grandparents, and allowing them to go home each day to their parents who are nurses, doctors, fire fighters, policeman, ADF members etc.
What practical security or safety (or health) purpose will be achieved by arresting or fining me for arriving at an empty airport with an expired ASIC?
Walk me through the purpose of allowing school kids to be within 1.5 metres of each other at school (and within 1.5 metres of teachers who may be grandparents), but banning them from being within 1.5 metres of each other at the beach or in parks and keeping them away from their grandparents, and allowing them to go home each day to their parents who are nurses, doctors, fire fighters, policeman, ADF members etc.
Thread creep. Population of India 1.3 billion. Cases of virus 330, deaths 4. Now we know everything you read or get off the net is "110%" accurate however it does beg the question what are the first world countries doing wrong. Vietnam pop 96 million, over 100 cases no deaths (as yet) and appears to be business as usual (no economic close downs) but everyone wears a mask, everyone washes hands, every taxi is cleaned after use, every seat in every restaurant/café is cleaned after use etc. I don't believe these countries have a far better medical system than other parts of the world so what is the message?
Dont worry...the control freaks in this very authoritarian country will make sure the ASIC (their 'job') and revenue continues.
No RPT at yr regional airport any more? An ASIC will be reqired if there are any charter operators there.
No charter operators in existence?. An ASIC will be required if there are any pvt aircraft parked there.
If the airfield is abandoned and everyone has cleared out, an ASIC will be required to set foot on any airport property.
If you've given up aviation because there isnt any, you will still be required to get one because you had one before. And the ASIC is the only way to find out if you've been a very naughty boy or girl.
No RPT at yr regional airport any more? An ASIC will be reqired if there are any charter operators there.
No charter operators in existence?. An ASIC will be required if there are any pvt aircraft parked there.
If the airfield is abandoned and everyone has cleared out, an ASIC will be required to set foot on any airport property.
If you've given up aviation because there isnt any, you will still be required to get one because you had one before. And the ASIC is the only way to find out if you've been a very naughty boy or girl.
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I know of many companies that reimburse their pilots for the ASIC. I guess it is the same as the argument over paying the award. Plenty do above and beyond, but there are also those who we all know don't.