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Old 12th Sep 2017, 13:49   #1 (permalink)
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Ultralight aircraft 2 strokes to be banned

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The lunatic fringe is becoming less of a fringe!!

No more flushing the 140 in the driveway then...
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Old 13th Sep 2017, 03:36   #3 (permalink)
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The lunatic fringe is becoming less of a fringe!!...
Yep. They want to ban them so we can meet our CO2 targets... or to atone to the climate gods. Pick one, the're both just as silly.

...anyway, the CO2 output of all them Oz two strokes combined would likely be the same amount as put out in a few seconds by a coal fired power station. And yet around the world there are 621 new coal fired power stations being built right now according to information given to Australian senator Williams.

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Before anyone else wastes 10 seconds of their life be warned the previous post takes you straight to the BBS.*

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Makes sense to me.

What's your position on two-strokes, Rutan?
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Very good purgatives if you fly behind one.
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Also old mate seems to get 3 times the distance on a tank of fuel since he changed to a 4 stroke outboard.
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Why on earth would anyone use a two stroke anything these days. Horrible noisy things that are hard to start, you have to mix the oil/fuel just right, then when finished what you are doing, you smell like an oil refinery. Electric rechargeable is the way to go.
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Also old mate seems to get 3 times the distance on a tank of fuel since he changed to a 4 stroke outboard.
Outboards ?

Evinrude are 2 stroke engines, likely burn less fuel then a 4 stroke of equivalent torque, and they offer a full 10 year warranty on the engine..





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Old 13th Sep 2017, 10:27   #10 (permalink)
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Why on earth would anyone use a two stroke anything these days. Horrible noisy things that are hard to start, you have to mix the oil/fuel just right, then when finished what you are doing, you smell like an oil refinery. Electric rechargeable is the way to go.
I were looking at them battery chainsaws a few months back. Something to leave behind the seat of the ute for those times when yer find a tree across the track. Advise i received from an elec saw owner were to stick with me 2 stroke Sthil for a while longer yet.

Meanwhile, back with pax carrying aircraft. When battery/elec powered aircraft can be built that match fuel powered aircraft in the cost and operational areas I'd say they'd take off. Long way off yet.





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@Flying Binghi - can't you find another forum for your climate change skeptic fruit cake rants?
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@Flying Binghi - can't you find another forum for your climate change skeptic fruit cake rants?
He writes this stuff on another forum already... he just needs to spare this one of such posts :-)
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@Flying Binghi - can't you find another forum for your climate change skeptic fruit cake rants?
This sort of comment is a bit like some of those associated with the SSM Survey. Last time I checked we were supposed to live in a democracy and have the right to free speech, unless of course we oppose SSM or the notion of Global Warming. We are sitting back happily watching the Global Warming believers destroy our economy and yet we contribute less than 2% of global emissions. To me that simply means that we could shut down each and every Co2 emitting item in Australia and our contribution at very best would be a less than 2% reduction in Global Emissions. When the Global Warming believers all start using sailing ships instead of aircraft, riding horses instead of driving powered vehicles and living in mud brick houses I might even start believing them.
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stihl chainsaw, cold dead hands.
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stihl chainsaw, cold dead hands.
lying Binghi,
Your mate is spot on, electric chain saws just don't have the grunt, although I must admit that my 12" bar battery saw is convenient for light ppruning --- of the garden variety, of course.
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Your mate is spot on, electric chain saws just don't have the grunt, although I must admit that my 12" bar battery saw is convenient for light ppruning --- of the garden variety, of course.
Tootle pip!!
Yeah, suppose there comes a time in every ones life when its an electric chain saw and an electric mobility scooter to help carry the saw to the job..





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@Flying Binghi - can't you find another forum for your climate change skeptic fruit cake rants?
Havin a look-see at yer old posts there peterc005 and found this jem:

"...P.S. I like Julia Gillard and think she is a fine person doing a good job..."

From the thread: Gillards Carbon Tax and effect on Aviation fuel



And reading all those easily debunked claims of peterc005 reminded me of...

Via Garth Paltridge, Atmospheric physicist and former Chief Research Scientist CSIRO Division of Atmospheric Research -

"...There is a fair amount of reasonable science behind the global warming debate, but in general, and give or take a religion or two, never has quite so much rubbish been espoused by so many on so little evidence. One wonders why..."



Mr Paltridge wrote an excellent book called The Climate Caper





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Funny if it wasnt so serious.

A few weeks ago i had to go down to the big smoke. To to left of me where coal trains going to the largest coal export port in the world. To right of me were components going to the latest wind turbine farm in the north new england.

So we not allowed to use coal here in Australia but are allowed to export the stuff. We export the high quality coal and we use the the lower quality here.

Yesterday we were told we are 1.27 % of the worlds co2 emiters. Remember that what we export and what that country burns is place on Australia co2 emmision. A country of 25 million.

So if you think that if we stop exporting how long do you think it would take mmm lets say china to come down and just take it.

Mean while we now pay the highest power rates in the world pay high personal tax while we export or country away and get nothing for it.

6 billoin australian $$$$ this year alone will go overseas in goverment subitites to support wind turbines.
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is irrelevant.

Pilots on an A380 are less than 1.27% of the people on board, so does that make them not worth considering when discussing aviation safety?

I find it odd that some pilots seem not to be able to grasp the concept of leadership.
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The idea that is irrelevant.

Pilots on an A380 are less than 1.27% of the people on board, so does that make them not worth considering when discussing aviation safety?

I find it odd that some pilots seem not to be able to grasp the concept of leadership.

Yes you must be a pilot that cant think or read. If we remove the exports we nothing. Why are we being being used for the over peoples useage.

Worlds population approx 7.5 billion. Australian population 25 million. Do you really think we make a difference. If we all stoped tomorrow we make not a difference. Even the chief scientist was ask can we make a difference if we stoped 100& of emisions he said no. Then ask what if we go to 50% emision stopage. He said i think ive already answered that question. For every $1 extra that spent on electricity bills it $1 less that spent to give my kids your kids ypur family work. We now going to be held to ransom by AGL as predicted some time back. To put wind turbines up to comply withe liddel removal will take a min of 2400 3mgw turbines. But will provide not 1 watt of base load power.
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