Avalon Airshow 3-5 March 2017
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Avalon East can be a bit hectic at times but if you follow the published procedures and stay alert its generally not too bad.
What do they run into Avalon? Class C parading as Class D?
Seems to be class D procedures.
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going on thursday, but have zero expectations of seeing anything useful or of benefit to GA or RA. probably just war toys for military onanists. i should be gone by 2 pm.
I don't know why you are bothering to go Sunfish, you did nothing but complain bitterly about it on here two years ago when you went last time !!
I know Squawk, but at heart I am still an optimist. Maybe there will be something to see/buy/inform this time.
If I assume all we get is white corporate jets, spotters, RC models, ageing military reenactment morons in old jeeps and bored salesmen who are waiting to go home, then I guess I can only be surprised and delighted.
I think the best stand last time was the Bureau of Meteorology, Might have even bought a Garmin GTN 650 last time if the salesman had been interested enough to tell me why I should want one.
If I assume all we get is white corporate jets, spotters, RC models, ageing military reenactment morons in old jeeps and bored salesmen who are waiting to go home, then I guess I can only be surprised and delighted.
I think the best stand last time was the Bureau of Meteorology, Might have even bought a Garmin GTN 650 last time if the salesman had been interested enough to tell me why I should want one.
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I do wish those of you so critical of the Avalon show, (Sunfish, two years and four years ago!), had the slightest idea of how many thousands of hours of work, both paid and volunteer, goes into producing this five day event and realised that budget restriction, aircraft availability - especially military and the weather all play their part in the perception of the final product and all of which are outside the control of the organisers.
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Isn't it ridiculous - my flight time from PC would be about 6 minutes (assuming no hanging about), but assuming ramp check, I'd be planning a nav to the next bay!
I have to say, my appetite to fly in reduced somewhat when I heard AOPA have beers on offer from 4pm - I may swap the a/c for an Uber!!
I have to say, my appetite to fly in reduced somewhat when I heard AOPA have beers on offer from 4pm - I may swap the a/c for an Uber!!
Parabellum, I am the last person to be critical of the volunteers and I have a working knowledge of the huge amount of work, paid and unpaid, to stage such an event.
What I'm saying is that I have very few expectations as a GA ppl holder of seeing much that is of anything other than entertainment value.
Frankly there does not seem to be any aviation related event in Australia that is targeted at GA, the closest being the SAAA show at Narromine, which I hope to attend again.
What I'm saying is that I have very few expectations as a GA ppl holder of seeing much that is of anything other than entertainment value.
Frankly there does not seem to be any aviation related event in Australia that is targeted at GA, the closest being the SAAA show at Narromine, which I hope to attend again.
I'm guessing the F35's (2 of them) won't fly as they are the first of the Australian owned units which will only have just recently arrived here.
One day the rest of what we ordered should turn up.
One day the rest of what we ordered should turn up.
Bloggs,
Surely they wouldn't want one of those rather expensive, single engine jets to risk failing at an air show just now? Coz there's lots of money heading towards the U.S. aerospace industry from here on.
(That's from Australia.)
No doubt the F35 engines have a marketed MTBF of a zillion hours.. Of course.
Surely they wouldn't want one of those rather expensive, single engine jets to risk failing at an air show just now? Coz there's lots of money heading towards the U.S. aerospace industry from here on.
(That's from Australia.)
No doubt the F35 engines have a marketed MTBF of a zillion hours.. Of course.
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In fairness, they were never going to be flying at this one, it was always just a static display. Still, if you're going to bring them over, why not give them a bit of a run for the public..?
- Still 'ironing out' the bugs..?!
- No display routine developed yet..?
- No display pilot available..?
- Not approved by CASA for airshow displays yet..?
- Fear of getting shown up by the FA18, the F22 or even the F16..?!
- Still 'ironing out' the bugs..?!
- No display routine developed yet..?
- No display pilot available..?
- Not approved by CASA for airshow displays yet..?
- Fear of getting shown up by the FA18, the F22 or even the F16..?!
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IFEZ, I flew into Oshkosh a couple of times last year. I flew in there on the Sunday prior to the show (the busiest day). A plain language document explaining how to get in there was probably the best document I've seen for this type of thing. Flew in from Portage Municipal.
The ATC's there are superb. Without peer. I doubt you'll go anywhere where more courtesy is shown amongst the pilots, there wasn't anyone cutting off other pilots or pushing in. And there was absolutely no talk required from pilots.
I flew in and out of there (start and finish) and once during the show. No ramp checks, no ramp nazis. Just friendly competent people helping you out.
The ATC's there are superb. Without peer. I doubt you'll go anywhere where more courtesy is shown amongst the pilots, there wasn't anyone cutting off other pilots or pushing in. And there was absolutely no talk required from pilots.
I flew in and out of there (start and finish) and once during the show. No ramp checks, no ramp nazis. Just friendly competent people helping you out.
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Sunfish -
Yes, been to the Narromine show, 2012 or 2013, can't remember now but I thought that an organisation in Queensland ran a big show, aimed at GA? Sorry, can't for the life of me remember the name of the organisers, just that it is a fairly big show.
"Frankly there does not seem to be any aviation related event in Australia that is targeted at GA, the closest being the SAAA show at Narromine, which I hope to attend again."
ACMS,
For a long time, I have been known to criticise Avalon for overpromising and then under delivering.
So is it your claim that RAAF pilots will fly two of our F-35s from USA to Avalon and back to USA, true?
IFEZ,
I'm with you on this. If the F35's travel all that distance, then why not a quick circuit or two?
I reckon that the RAAF is being sold a very expensive dud with this aircraft.
For a long time, I have been known to criticise Avalon for overpromising and then under delivering.
So is it your claim that RAAF pilots will fly two of our F-35s from USA to Avalon and back to USA, true?
IFEZ,
I'm with you on this. If the F35's travel all that distance, then why not a quick circuit or two?
I reckon that the RAAF is being sold a very expensive dud with this aircraft.