Still no GA aviation policy for the election?
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Still no GA aviation policy for the election?
Am I correct in stating that the major parties have not come up with any aviation policy for GA for this federal election?
If so it seems mighty strange.
Does anyone have an explanation? What is Mr Chester doing?
If so it seems mighty strange.
Does anyone have an explanation? What is Mr Chester doing?
Everyone knows their policy, Dick: Abdicate all responsibility.
Simple!
Simple!
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Plazbot. I have never thought GA is important to our politicians . Please check with me before you post erroneous information.
In the past even though it's clear they don't care about GA they have normally come up with some policy. Why different this time? Is it to put our more dynamic AOPA in its place ?
In the past even though it's clear they don't care about GA they have normally come up with some policy. Why different this time? Is it to put our more dynamic AOPA in its place ?
If they couldn't be bothered with GA then why waste your vote. It is time to vote in some new blood. There's some new options now...
The Australian Liberty Alliance has a fairly large list of candidates:
ALA final candidate list for 2016
* Kirralie Smith - Senate New South Wales
* Garry 'Angry' Anderson - Senate New South Wales
* Bernard Gaynor - Senate Queensland
* Alan Biggs - Senate Queensland
* Chelle Dobson - Senate Queensland
* Wanda Marsh - Senate South Australia
* Tony Robinson - Senate Tasmania
* Daniel Jones - Senate Victoria
* Debbie Robinson - Senate Western Australia
* Marion Hercock - Senate Western Australia
* Ron Pike - Seat of Farrer NSW
* Peter Kelly - Seat of Bradfied NSW
* Stephen Roddick - Seat of Lindsay NSW
* Carl Halley - Seat of Macquarie NSW
* Shaun Spain - Seat of Forde QLD
* Matt Darragh - Seat of Griffith QLD
* Caleb Wells - Seat of Longman QLD
* Rob Windred - Seat of Hinkler QLD
* Tony Duncan - Seat of Bowman QLD
* John Spellman - Seat of Fisher QLD
* David Archibald - Seat of Curtin WA
This is an impressive front row for our party which only launched on 20 October 2015. We achieved this with grassroots support from Australians around the country like yourself. There is no big business, no big union and no petro dollars behind us. We are a grassroots movement in the true sense of the word and every member has good reason to be proud - and this is only the start.
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The Australian Liberty Alliance has a fairly large list of candidates:
ALA final candidate list for 2016
* Kirralie Smith - Senate New South Wales
* Garry 'Angry' Anderson - Senate New South Wales
* Bernard Gaynor - Senate Queensland
* Alan Biggs - Senate Queensland
* Chelle Dobson - Senate Queensland
* Wanda Marsh - Senate South Australia
* Tony Robinson - Senate Tasmania
* Daniel Jones - Senate Victoria
* Debbie Robinson - Senate Western Australia
* Marion Hercock - Senate Western Australia
* Ron Pike - Seat of Farrer NSW
* Peter Kelly - Seat of Bradfied NSW
* Stephen Roddick - Seat of Lindsay NSW
* Carl Halley - Seat of Macquarie NSW
* Shaun Spain - Seat of Forde QLD
* Matt Darragh - Seat of Griffith QLD
* Caleb Wells - Seat of Longman QLD
* Rob Windred - Seat of Hinkler QLD
* Tony Duncan - Seat of Bowman QLD
* John Spellman - Seat of Fisher QLD
* David Archibald - Seat of Curtin WA
This is an impressive front row for our party which only launched on 20 October 2015. We achieved this with grassroots support from Australians around the country like yourself. There is no big business, no big union and no petro dollars behind us. We are a grassroots movement in the true sense of the word and every member has good reason to be proud - and this is only the start.
Final candidate list for 2016 | Australian Liberty Alliance
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May I suggest they wont get one candidate elected and therefore it would be a wasted vote. With candidates like a burnt out rock star, one can only wonder what he could possibly bring to the table.After all the last one was hardley a success with the pink batts fiasco.
Much better bet to go with the Nick X team. At least he raised the CASA issues with them at the Senate hearing.
Much better bet to go with the Nick X team. At least he raised the CASA issues with them at the Senate hearing.
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May I suggest they wont get one candidate elected and therefore it would be a wasted vote. With candidates like a burnt out rock star, one can only wonder what he could possibly bring to the table.After all the last one was hardley a success with the pink batts fiasco...
May I suggest they wont get one candidate elected and therefore it would be a wasted vote. With candidates like a burnt out rock star, one can only wonder what he could possibly bring to the table.After all the last one was hardley a success with the pink batts fiasco...
One thing I do note is that going off the European and UK experience that political partys just like the ALA are on the up and up. I also note that it appears that the ALA need somebody with Aviation experience to set up their aviation policy. Probably an interesting opening for somebody with the can-do...
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Dick, you think a GA policy is important, I think it is important, the vast majority of the electorate doesn't. That is all the politicians are concerned with. End of story. If you know of any way in which the electorate can be made to be interested in GA then let rip. We are all ears.
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The Barnaby Joyce/ Tony Windsor seat may be very close. Say less than a hundred votes difference.
I understand Tony Windsor has made an unequivocal statement that he will support Mr Xenophon in getting the ADSB mandate delayed until 2021 as per the AOPA requirement .
So far Mr Joyce and the Minister are supporting AsA/ CASA - and therefore the further destruction of GA in this country because even CASA claims that if complied with the mandate will cost GA over $30 million. No existing safety problem is being addressed . It's shear bastardry .
Very risky I would reckon.
Otherwise I agree with Plovett- that's why I warn everyone to get out of commercial GA before they lose everything . I see no light on the horizon. It's obvious now why the Bureaucrats in the Department allowed the selection of the current CASA board.
I understand Tony Windsor has made an unequivocal statement that he will support Mr Xenophon in getting the ADSB mandate delayed until 2021 as per the AOPA requirement .
So far Mr Joyce and the Minister are supporting AsA/ CASA - and therefore the further destruction of GA in this country because even CASA claims that if complied with the mandate will cost GA over $30 million. No existing safety problem is being addressed . It's shear bastardry .
Very risky I would reckon.
Otherwise I agree with Plovett- that's why I warn everyone to get out of commercial GA before they lose everything . I see no light on the horizon. It's obvious now why the Bureaucrats in the Department allowed the selection of the current CASA board.
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Dick, as to the CASA Board, I don't think it is entirely a toothless tiger. I am aware of some of the views of the current Chairman and they don't sit easily with the direction of CASA. However, my suspicion is that changing the direction of CASA is akin to changing course in a supertanker, not something that can happen immediately.
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It was the current Board who selected and appointed the Director.
The director can change the direction of the " supertanker" by 180 degrees in 10 minutes if he so desired.
The director can change the direction of the " supertanker" by 180 degrees in 10 minutes if he so desired.
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But only if the rest of the crew agree, Dick! 
No he can't turn it around, Dick. That's part of the genius of the people who actually run CASA.
The DAS is always in a comfy straightjacket imposed by the legislation he's paid to administer. Those around him are happy to keep on legislating. Forever. It's a nice little earner for them.
About the only tool he can use to change things is exemptions.
Given his stance CVD, he will presumably continue CASA's practice of exempting primarily on the basis of the political importance of the issue rather than safety. The Coober Pedy runway width issue, and SIDS extension, jump to mind.
The DAS is always in a comfy straightjacket imposed by the legislation he's paid to administer. Those around him are happy to keep on legislating. Forever. It's a nice little earner for them.
About the only tool he can use to change things is exemptions.
Given his stance CVD, he will presumably continue CASA's practice of exempting primarily on the basis of the political importance of the issue rather than safety. The Coober Pedy runway width issue, and SIDS extension, jump to mind.
Correct.
If, for example, the SIDS deadline had coincidentally fallen just after an election rather than during an election campaign, I doubt whether it would have been extended.
If, for example, the SIDS deadline had coincidentally fallen just after an election rather than during an election campaign, I doubt whether it would have been extended.
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I have heard that Tony Windsor is going to support the AOPA position of delaying the ADSB mandate until 2021.
Has Mr Joyce made a comment on this? Does the coalition have an aviation policy yet? What is the new ministers advisor doing?
Has Mr Joyce made a comment on this? Does the coalition have an aviation policy yet? What is the new ministers advisor doing?