Wikiposts
Search
The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions The place for students, instructors and charter guys in Oz, NZ and the rest of Oceania.

Pussies!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 28th Nov 2014, 10:05
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: NSW
Posts: 4,273
Received 36 Likes on 27 Posts
Pussies!


.....hiding behind Nick Xylophone..
TBM-Legend is offline  
Old 28th Nov 2014, 11:06
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Paradise
Age: 68
Posts: 1,551
Received 50 Likes on 19 Posts
I'm no pussy....nor puppy.....but if it is intersecting runways that they are concerned about (LAHSO I presume) then surely the greatest risk of collision is on the ground rather than in the air?

Either way, I hope it never occurs.
chimbu warrior is offline  
Old 28th Nov 2014, 11:10
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Victoria
Posts: 750
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
A go around due strong cross winds is the risk they appear to be focused on.

Kaz
kaz3g is offline  
Old 28th Nov 2014, 11:14
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Australia
Age: 74
Posts: 1,384
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Pussies!
You really are a legend aren't you?
Arnold E is offline  
Old 28th Nov 2014, 11:32
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: in the classroom of life
Age: 55
Posts: 6,864
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
The practice is banned in most parts of the world, but permitted in Australia, the United States and Canada.

But there are strict conditions governing when a pilot is allowed to land on a runway that intersects another that is in use.
Well perhaps the rest of the world is not capable of it, but if us the yanks and Canadians can do it……it can't be that bad surely!
Jabawocky is offline  
Old 28th Nov 2014, 11:44
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Australia
Age: 51
Posts: 931
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
ABC gutter trash...

Cross winds have to be less than 20 knots and tail winds less than 5 knots.
My brief re-read of the rules, is that this part is dictated by the manufacturers POH, including demonstrated Xwind and performance data, closely followed by the operators handbooks and policy, at all times decided by the Pilot in command. Dang, I am ticketed on lighties with a better Xwind componant than this purported.

Greg Hood should have told em to get stuffed until they get a clue.

YMML cross runway ops have operated for years without seperation incidents. LAHSO is more risky, but the traffic levels see to it that LAHSO is rarely used.

This ABC left wing crap is saying the controllers cannot do their job and need further regulation.

Truth is, the ABC can't do their job and need another funding cut!
jas24zzk is offline  
Old 28th Nov 2014, 12:37
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: YMML
Posts: 1,838
Received 16 Likes on 6 Posts
jas24zzk, which bit do you object to? The general rule for LAHSO is 20 and 5. Surely the more adverse the conditions the higher the chance of a go-around and the greater the risk of a collision.

The article is saying nothing about controllers and everything about rules. The whole intention of such general rules is to operate well within the normal capabilities of any aircraft likely to be involved to minimise the risk.

You have an unusual definition of "rarely". It'd be a rare week we don't use it at some stage.

Methinks you need to go easy on the LNP anti-ABC Kool-Aid. It should carry a health warning as it rots the brain.
le Pingouin is offline  
Old 28th Nov 2014, 19:04
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 3,870
Received 191 Likes on 98 Posts
Maybe they could spend some of the billions they make from car parks on another new runway. Would pay for it in no time.
Squawk7700 is offline  
Old 28th Nov 2014, 19:27
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: sydney
Posts: 1,469
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
"Maybe they could spend some of the billions they make from car parks on another new runway"

Not much left after paying Mc Bank management fees and directors bonuses mate, hell there's not even enough left to pay any tax.
Guess they have to pay tax in the Bahamas...oh yeah tax free zone aint it.

thorn bird is offline  
Old 28th Nov 2014, 20:04
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Queensland
Posts: 686
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Truth is, the ABC can't do their job and need another funding cut!
Great idea Jaz. We can all see how wonderfully that approach has worked with commercial radio and TV.

Oh that the ABC could produce balanced and informative commentary such as that produced by brilliant and even-handed experts like Alan Jones and Andrew Bolt.

All that we'll be left with is 'A Current Affair' and shows like Big Brother and The Farmer Finds a Wife (if he hasn't found one yet). Average IQ of viewers of these shows is about 25, isn't it? Maybe Today Tonight can do a survey.
rutan around is offline  
Old 28th Nov 2014, 23:09
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Oz
Posts: 538
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
jas24zzk,
Your statement about crosswinds shows a complete lack of comprehension of the increased risk of collision due go round in LAHSO operations. Perhaps you got it from Mr Bolt.
topdrop is offline  
Old 29th Nov 2014, 06:14
  #12 (permalink)  
Seasonally Adjusted
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: ...deep fine leg
Posts: 1,125
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
This ABC left wing crap...
So, Mel Clarke reports on a Senate Hearing, featuring Senator Nick Xenophon and Air Services Australia's Greg Hood, provides relevant quotes and researched facts in an impartial manner....and it's "left wing crap?"

What a bizarre world you live in.
Towering Q is offline  
Old 29th Nov 2014, 06:43
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Florida USA
Age: 61
Posts: 0
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Wake up down there on the Island go see how the grown ups do it and get ATC lessons in LHR/ATL/JFK/ORD/DFW.....


Inquiry, report, tribunal another report recommendation then Government change repeat all over again nothing happens, this is why Australia is an Island as all Islands are backward...
4 Holer is offline  
Old 29th Nov 2014, 06:46
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,082
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Misleading thread title...
currawong is offline  
Old 29th Nov 2014, 11:01
  #15 (permalink)  
Man Bilong Balus long PNG
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Looking forward to returning to Japan soon but in the meantime continuing the never ending search for a bad bottle of Red!
Age: 69
Posts: 2,966
Received 92 Likes on 53 Posts
Misleading thread title...
Quite so, currawong. I thought it was about Cats!


Taily; This one's going nowhere fast!
Pinky the pilot is online now  
Old 29th Nov 2014, 11:23
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: NSW Australia
Posts: 2,455
Received 33 Likes on 15 Posts
Wake up down there on the Island go see how the grown ups do it and get ATC lessons in LHR/ATL/JFK/ORD/DFW.....


Inquiry, report, tribunal another report recommendation then Government change repeat all over again nothing happens, this is why Australia is an Island as all Islands are backward...
So, so true and so bloody sad.

In every endeavour Banana Island is choking itself in brown tape and bureaucracy and taxes and fees and public servants and...

...If you fly into New York, how many SIDs/STARs/etc are published?
...if you fly into Melbourne or Perth, how many pages of crap are published?

This has nothing to do with Left/right wing crap, it has everything to do with the sheep-like character that typifies Australians in the 21st Century.

We are being manipulated by major corporations and media outlets and the average Aussie doesn't have a clue and doesn't give a ****.



....what was this thread about again?

NURSE!
Horatio Leafblower is offline  
Old 29th Nov 2014, 11:39
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: YMML
Posts: 1,838
Received 16 Likes on 6 Posts
Sigh. Get off the "they don't don't do it in XXXX (substitute favourite major overseas aerodrome) so why should we here?" horse already. Have you ever considered that maybe, just maybe, they don't because they can't due to traffic levels and airspace structure?

We keep getting told the airlines like it this way so where are you coming from?
le Pingouin is offline  
Old 30th Nov 2014, 09:46
  #18 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 394
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
To quote Ren and Stimpy:

"EEDIOTS TO THE LEFT OF ME, EEEDIOTS TO THE RIGHT OF ME, AAAAGGGHHHHH EEEEDIOTS EVERYWHERE!!!!!!"

Yep. The thread has gone to the dogs.

As has the country, for the most part. The number of people happy to accept the crap dished out to them is phenomenal.
sprocket check is offline  
Old 30th Nov 2014, 11:17
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Australia
Age: 74
Posts: 1,384
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
This ABC left wing crap
Tell me EXACTLY what is LEFT WING crap.
Dont hold back, but I want to know What is LEFT WING only, nothing else.
Arnold E is offline  
Old 30th Nov 2014, 11:21
  #20 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Australia
Age: 74
Posts: 1,384
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Taily; This one's going nowhere fast!
Then dont read it, simple. ( I cant do the mearkats squeak ) maybe only applicable to SA
Arnold E is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.