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Doctors and Nurses are regulated by AHPRA - Australian Health Professionals Regulation Agency.
They kill a great many more people per year than we do.
Maybe they should call it the health Professionals Safety Regulation Agency and Doctors will stop making so many mistakes!
They kill a great many more people per year than we do.
Maybe they should call it the health Professionals Safety Regulation Agency and Doctors will stop making so many mistakes!
I was thinking more like DCA with Senator Fawcett as Minister
I fail to see exactly what relevant tools he brings to the job apart from honesty, candour, and superlative flying talent and experience.
Mark Skidmore is a good bloke, has business experience, has been successful at the top levels of the military organisation (which is at least as much civilian as it is uniform), owns and flies his own GA machine, is old enough to be wise and young enough to have drive, and is a positive personality.
I'm sure he'll be as well placed as anybody, and better than most, to do what is humanly possible to improve CASA where it needs improvement (clearly, a big task) and to build on the (gasp) positive things it already does.
The whole RAAFie vs civilian thing is a smokescreen, and I'm sure we all know numerous examples of people from both sides of the fence who are a) goats, b) champions, or c) somewhere in between, ie typical human beings.
Skidmore will do as good a job as can be done, and I hope everyone gets behind him.
Here's an idea!!!!!
Why don't we let the new DAS have a go. He couldn't be any worst than the previous encumberent.
As for being in the RAAF so what, when I started flying in 1974 virtually all the senior people were from my fathers generation ex WW II RAAF or RAN. Without doubt they were all good airman who guided not ruled.
If he, Skidmore, can use some old discipline on those who have built little empires then there is hope for the future.
The way to do it is like what the army use to do. If a recalciant wouldn't toe the line, then he got shipped off to shuffle paper clips but retained his rank. A couple of object lessons will bring the others into line. Use their own tactics pick on the weakest.
I look forward to what the future brings.
Why don't we let the new DAS have a go. He couldn't be any worst than the previous encumberent.
As for being in the RAAF so what, when I started flying in 1974 virtually all the senior people were from my fathers generation ex WW II RAAF or RAN. Without doubt they were all good airman who guided not ruled.
If he, Skidmore, can use some old discipline on those who have built little empires then there is hope for the future.
The way to do it is like what the army use to do. If a recalciant wouldn't toe the line, then he got shipped off to shuffle paper clips but retained his rank. A couple of object lessons will bring the others into line. Use their own tactics pick on the weakest.
I look forward to what the future brings.
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Your really showing your lack of knowledge in aviation.
Would you like me to quote what casa said at the commission about aviation consulton.
Some of use work full time in this industry some are transient. This is all I do. What about your self. Expert on all I guess
Your really showing your lack of knowledge in aviation.
Would you like me to quote what casa said at the commission about aviation consulton.
Some of use work full time in this industry some are transient. This is all I do. What about your self. Expert on all I guess
The dictator ship that has now avowed and is allowed to prosper.
Dr
PS: I know some good blokes in the RAAF and ex-RAAF and I know some A1 wankers! Same same in most walks of life. This bloke looks OK on paper so I say give him a run before nailing his hide to the wall.
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Civilian v RAAF
For those whom seem to "have it in" for the ex-RAAF, ex ADF personnel who find themselves in positions of authority let me enlighten you. Having almost equally shared over fifty years between being a member of the RAAF and being employed in civil aviation I can assure you that there are both great and mediocre individuals in both spheres. Thankfully the former predominate, both in managerial skills and personal attributes. To those anti ex-service personnel among us all I can say is "Get a life and take a look in the mirror, you just may not like what you see".
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Well said dehavlliland pilot and oldfella, this guy didn't get to be an AVM by wanking himself blind. To fit the perfectionist shoe he would have needed to have completed a career with QANTAS on long-haul and short haul, worked on his days off for Virgin, spent anymore spare time he had as an LAE in the hangar and run every different kind of GA operation from RPT to RAAA and the antiquities, that would make him about 150 years old, minimum!
Why do people who have never been in the military have such a warped view of what senior retirees are capable of? Yes, there have been a few failures but by and large retired AVMs come with a wealth of experience and the ability to be flexible enough to embrace the less familiar parts.
How about we give the guy a fair go?
Why do people who have never been in the military have such a warped view of what senior retirees are capable of? Yes, there have been a few failures but by and large retired AVMs come with a wealth of experience and the ability to be flexible enough to embrace the less familiar parts.
How about we give the guy a fair go?
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Jaba
Your really showing your lack of knowledge in aviation.
Would you like me to quote what casa said at the commission about aviation consulton.
Some of use work full time in this industry some are transient. This is all I do. What about your self. Expert on all I guess
Your really showing your lack of knowledge in aviation.
Would you like me to quote what casa said at the commission about aviation consulton.
Some of use work full time in this industry some are transient. This is all I do. What about your self. Expert on all I guess
How was that showing my lack of knowledge in aviation? I acknowledge my lack of knowledge and admit I do not know what I do not know. It is probably far greater than your lack of knowledge by a huge margin. So please do tell me all about what CASA said at the commission.
As usual I expect you will not answer my request, as so far on prune you have failed to answer the vast majority of the direct and pertinent questions I have asked you. Even when you claim to have vastly superior knowledge.
So do we all assume that working full time in the industry as a mechanic that makes you an expert on all matters aviation? When was the last time you flew an RNAV or ILS approach to the minima in real IMC, and or under the hood? When was the last time you witnessed certification testing (detonation tests, freeze point tests etc.) of aviation gasoline (leaded or unleaded). When was the last time you wrote a report to the coroner on an aviation fatality (not me, others, I have no experience there) or any number of things you claim to be an expert on, like the law.
What about yourself? An Expert on all of them I guess?
No need to answer, not that you would, because it is irrelevant. What you do and what you have expert knowledge on, has very little to to do with all the things you comment on actively here. Just like being a mechanic makes your qualifications irrelevant when passing judgement on Mr Skidmores appointment to CASA, that, notwithstanding you may actually have some relevant knowledge to share. Why? Because what anyone does full time in their day job may not be all they are somewhat skilled at or have knowledge on. You and me included!
So what did CASA say at the commission and what about Mr Skidmore?
PS:
I also note you seem to enjoy posting anonymously yet at the same time publicly outing and attempting to discredit others by dubious means in recent threads. You are not as anonymous as you think either. Play the ball.
The reality of this appointment is that CASA is destined to another four or five years wandering aimlessly in the wilderness; another four or five years of ludicrous "regulatory reform" wasting another $100 million plus and industry can expect a further four or five years with a third world regulator that is totally out of touch with Australian needs and values.
I don't know Mr Skidmore but I wish him well. He will not be able to rely upon military discipline to dismantle the political bastardry that is rife within CASA and has defeated past DAS. Sadly his resume does not reflect the administrative skills and civil regulatory and commercial aviation experience necessary for the task of dragging CASA into the real world of 21st century Australia.
I don't know Mr Skidmore but I wish him well. He will not be able to rely upon military discipline to dismantle the political bastardry that is rife within CASA and has defeated past DAS. Sadly his resume does not reflect the administrative skills and civil regulatory and commercial aviation experience necessary for the task of dragging CASA into the real world of 21st century Australia.
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To fit the perfectionist shoe he would have needed to have completed a career with QANTAS on long-haul and short haul, worked on his days off for Virgin, spent anymore spare time he had as an LAE in the hangar and run every different kind of GA operation from RPT to RAAA and the antiquities, that would make him about 150 years old, minimum!
administrative skills and civil regulatory and commercial aviation experience necessary for the task of dragging CASA into the real world of 21st century Australia.
More CASA Discussion Papers....
Following the appointment of a nodding donkey as Director Of Aviation Safety and the Governments soon to be released Non - response to the Aviation Review - explaining in detail why each of the Thirty Seven recommendations made either cannot be implemented, will only be partly implemented or are now irrelevant, I predict that CASA will proceed to seek its vengeance on everyone who criticised it. Individuals will be administratively dealt with in the time honoured manner. However the associations will be dealt with by another method - the discussion paper.
This operating principle of this type of behaviour involves the creation of the maximum possible levels of fear, uncertainty and doubt iin the target group. We are already seeing this effect on Two such target groups; Angel Flight pilots - should they be subject to tougher restrictions? Pilots with Colour vision defects - should they be allowed to fly at all? Lets look at the potential topics for CASA to discuss...
Firstly there is AOPA. How about a paper; "Should private pilots be allowed to fly in controlled airspace? Then there is the RAA; - "Should ultralights be banned from flying over built up areas? For the SAAA;- " Should there be tighter engineering and maintenance standards for Experimental aircraft?" The Gliding Federation; - "Mid AIr collisions and gliders - a serious safety issue?". For GA; - "Record keeping in General Aviation, too lax?" And of course the answer in each case is fewer rights and more regulation and thousands of trees worth of paper trying to refute the arguments made by CASA.
There is no end to the fun that can be had by winding up the various sectors of the industry. I invite you to submit your own titles.
This operating principle of this type of behaviour involves the creation of the maximum possible levels of fear, uncertainty and doubt iin the target group. We are already seeing this effect on Two such target groups; Angel Flight pilots - should they be subject to tougher restrictions? Pilots with Colour vision defects - should they be allowed to fly at all? Lets look at the potential topics for CASA to discuss...
Firstly there is AOPA. How about a paper; "Should private pilots be allowed to fly in controlled airspace? Then there is the RAA; - "Should ultralights be banned from flying over built up areas? For the SAAA;- " Should there be tighter engineering and maintenance standards for Experimental aircraft?" The Gliding Federation; - "Mid AIr collisions and gliders - a serious safety issue?". For GA; - "Record keeping in General Aviation, too lax?" And of course the answer in each case is fewer rights and more regulation and thousands of trees worth of paper trying to refute the arguments made by CASA.
There is no end to the fun that can be had by winding up the various sectors of the industry. I invite you to submit your own titles.
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casa avoids scrutiny
The following is a statement from the 2014 annual report:
Challenge to the new DAS:
Will the new das meet this, because the old one certainly did not and recent publications in the Cairns Post [October 2014] and there are numerous other examples where statements by casa were false as well.
Two falsehoods do not equal a truth.
and:
The pilot numbers continue to fall, just to add to the DAS's action plan and the Monday morning plan.
Challenge to the new DAS:
Will the new das meet this, because the old one certainly did not and recent publications in the Cairns Post [October 2014] and there are numerous other examples where statements by casa were false as well.
Two falsehoods do not equal a truth.
and:
The pilot numbers continue to fall, just to add to the DAS's action plan and the Monday morning plan.
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Before we get moved or merged.
I think we need to be very, very clear from the outset that none of the comment made on Pprune is against Skidmore – the bloke. Obviously, the man is respected, liked, of proven intelligence and capable; AVM qualifications do not come off the top of a cornflake box (not in Australia at least). It must be understood that what comes down the pipeline is not personal – it goes with the job.
Sunny is simply pointing out that part of the job which stultifies a normal, rational human being into a 'nodding donkey'; your man needs to grasp this simple fact. Mountains of memo's, reports, meetings, approvals, whispers, advice, fluttering eyelashes and free ice-cream to wade through before morning tea. Chat's with the MM crew for "guidance and advice" before lunch: afternoon tea with the minuscule which leaves a whole 15 minutes to actually do something useful. By day two there will a pile of industry requests a mile high – which need to be subject to the endless machinations of corporate affairs and that's all before the LSD begin their rice bowl protection campaign. Then there's the 'management wabbits' to listen to, followed by the frontal lobotomy first team, followed by the spanner twisters 'administrative' putsch.
AOTW – your 'man' will be doing a lot of nodding and he is, already THE donkey on which everyone tries to pin the tail.
On the plus side, even the smallest scrap of cheer for industry will win hearts and minds; any sign of reform will provide instant, tangible support; the slightest inkling of fair play will be met with a rousing cheer and more beer than the man can possibly drink. All to play for.
At present it's a little hard to define his motives for accepting 'the job' (unless Fawcett has a cunning plan, which would not surprise many) and apart from a fairly limited group no one knows 'what's in the sack'. What is known is how his opposition (not the MaM, as yet) will act; his early response to the opposition will tell the tale and set the tone for the next five years – which is a life sentence if another McComic style regime allowed to flourish and grow.
The stakes are high, the result uncertain and if 'the man' can't take the heat and he or his 'mates' are going to be upset by a 'nodding donkey' analogy, then perhaps he should take the hint from the three first preferred candidates who turned down the job and depart the fix.
Working to play the ball, examine the data available and watch carefully the results: thus far it is known that the original race – to find a 'nodding donkey' was fixed; that got tipped out. The second round was almost a straight race, with the stewards obligingly looking the other way when 'nodding donkey' was assisted in the running. The lengthy, 'diligent', world wide search by the MM crew for a 'suitable' candidate could, by a cynic, be translated in two ways. Finally, and after leaving the current Sleepy Hollow outfit time to reinforce the barriers, and grease the exit chutes - we get Skidmore.
So, lets remember it's the job, not the man we play. Actions and achievements will mark his tenure; not what his mates think.
"Nothing personal, dude. Just business."
Sunny is simply pointing out that part of the job which stultifies a normal, rational human being into a 'nodding donkey'; your man needs to grasp this simple fact. Mountains of memo's, reports, meetings, approvals, whispers, advice, fluttering eyelashes and free ice-cream to wade through before morning tea. Chat's with the MM crew for "guidance and advice" before lunch: afternoon tea with the minuscule which leaves a whole 15 minutes to actually do something useful. By day two there will a pile of industry requests a mile high – which need to be subject to the endless machinations of corporate affairs and that's all before the LSD begin their rice bowl protection campaign. Then there's the 'management wabbits' to listen to, followed by the frontal lobotomy first team, followed by the spanner twisters 'administrative' putsch.
AOTW – your 'man' will be doing a lot of nodding and he is, already THE donkey on which everyone tries to pin the tail.
On the plus side, even the smallest scrap of cheer for industry will win hearts and minds; any sign of reform will provide instant, tangible support; the slightest inkling of fair play will be met with a rousing cheer and more beer than the man can possibly drink. All to play for.
At present it's a little hard to define his motives for accepting 'the job' (unless Fawcett has a cunning plan, which would not surprise many) and apart from a fairly limited group no one knows 'what's in the sack'. What is known is how his opposition (not the MaM, as yet) will act; his early response to the opposition will tell the tale and set the tone for the next five years – which is a life sentence if another McComic style regime allowed to flourish and grow.
The stakes are high, the result uncertain and if 'the man' can't take the heat and he or his 'mates' are going to be upset by a 'nodding donkey' analogy, then perhaps he should take the hint from the three first preferred candidates who turned down the job and depart the fix.
Working to play the ball, examine the data available and watch carefully the results: thus far it is known that the original race – to find a 'nodding donkey' was fixed; that got tipped out. The second round was almost a straight race, with the stewards obligingly looking the other way when 'nodding donkey' was assisted in the running. The lengthy, 'diligent', world wide search by the MM crew for a 'suitable' candidate could, by a cynic, be translated in two ways. Finally, and after leaving the current Sleepy Hollow outfit time to reinforce the barriers, and grease the exit chutes - we get Skidmore.
So, lets remember it's the job, not the man we play. Actions and achievements will mark his tenure; not what his mates think.
"Nothing personal, dude. Just business."
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