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Yes I know a lot about crookwell. It was the first place in Australia to have a minor win against wind turbines in having some stoped. There is a hell of a lot more going on with what is happening down there. They all the way across to gunning and then lake George
These things are subsidised by the tax payer and anyone that uses power. Quick thought for all of you. How much concrete dose it take to hold up one of these things up.
Now Humpty Dumpty as usual nothing to say again. To answer your questions. Yes I have been made an expert witness by the Australian court system. Also if you haven't notice I only speak on a few topics on this site. And unlike your self which I'm guess Arnt even in the aviation industry.
You won't put **** on me go a head I really don't care.
Next is the biggest myth of all green house gasses. What a joke. C02 is not a green house gas for a start. They say Aussie are the biggest users. Why is this. This is fact. They place all we export onto us. That means all that is sent to China India Japan they burn it we wear the cost. Didn't know that did you. Next is base line power as these things come on line the power producers have to buy it so they slow down there generators. This then makes them inificent producing more c02 than at full power.
Get hold of this book.
Trashing the planet.
Read and weep at the lies told buy the greens. This book is a must read for those that Arnt sheep as she one by one exposes the green lies.
These things are subsidised by the tax payer and anyone that uses power. Quick thought for all of you. How much concrete dose it take to hold up one of these things up.
Now Humpty Dumpty as usual nothing to say again. To answer your questions. Yes I have been made an expert witness by the Australian court system. Also if you haven't notice I only speak on a few topics on this site. And unlike your self which I'm guess Arnt even in the aviation industry.
You won't put **** on me go a head I really don't care.
Next is the biggest myth of all green house gasses. What a joke. C02 is not a green house gas for a start. They say Aussie are the biggest users. Why is this. This is fact. They place all we export onto us. That means all that is sent to China India Japan they burn it we wear the cost. Didn't know that did you. Next is base line power as these things come on line the power producers have to buy it so they slow down there generators. This then makes them inificent producing more c02 than at full power.
Get hold of this book.
Trashing the planet.
Read and weep at the lies told buy the greens. This book is a must read for those that Arnt sheep as she one by one exposes the green lies.
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You would not want to be on short finals with the sun in the wrong position there. It'd burn your retinas out!
Quick thought for all of you. How much concrete dose it take to hold up one of these things up.
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I was told upwards of 500 tons per tower give or take. They decide the community to those that have and those that don't. At the end of the day they don't give a stuff about the community at all.
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Yr right
You really must change your name to:
I am completely wrong and make up random BS that I present as well informed facts.
Still you are very entertaining in a troll like manner
Keep up the shoddily researched and unsupported comments, it's good for a laugh. Makes some of us feel mildly intelligent.
HD
You really must change your name to:
I am completely wrong and make up random BS that I present as well informed facts.
Still you are very entertaining in a troll like manner
Keep up the shoddily researched and unsupported comments, it's good for a laugh. Makes some of us feel mildly intelligent.
HD
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I know we might be on the same side but can you send me a link to this.
"They place all we export onto us. That means all that is sent to China India Japan they burn it we wear the cost."
Solar around airports ?
If it stopped under utilized airports being sold off for development like in the UK, why not ?
I know we might be on the same side but can you send me a link to this.
"They place all we export onto us. That means all that is sent to China India Japan they burn it we wear the cost."
Solar around airports ?
If it stopped under utilized airports being sold off for development like in the UK, why not ?
"Yes I have been made an expert witness by the Australian court system."
Hopefully yr right will never appear before any inquest into a GA prang where the pilot was "suspected" of operating 'lean of peak'.
Hopefully yr right will never appear before any inquest into a GA prang where the pilot was "suspected" of operating 'lean of peak'.
Sadly though, wind farms haven't been built in Australia for advantageous environmental reasons at all. They are from big business for bigger profits.
Have you ever wondered when driving past one on a windy 25 degree C day that many or all the props are parked? Why would that be? They are U/S?
I think because of the ridiculous "competitive" electricity market on the East coast of Australia. Wind power waits until base load (coal and gas fired) peaks and the spot price skyrockets and then they come on line.
Have you ever wondered when driving past one on a windy 25 degree C day that many or all the props are parked? Why would that be? They are U/S?
I think because of the ridiculous "competitive" electricity market on the East coast of Australia. Wind power waits until base load (coal and gas fired) peaks and the spot price skyrockets and then they come on line.
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The Collgar Windfarm doesn't have any of the problems associated with East Coast power generation - but you can probably sheet a lot of Australias power generations problems right into politicians laps.
They're the ones who played around with electricity power prices, power station ownership, and a dozen other related issues, that have led to distortions in the power generation business on both the East Coast and the West Coast.
None of them had any foresight to see what renewable energy in the form of home solar installations would do to coal-fired power stations profitability - let alone the pressure to close inefficient coal-fired power stations.
In W.A., the Liberal Barnett Govt has blown no less than $250 MILLION of taxpayers money on trying to restore a power station with rusty boilers - and it will never make any money, even after its finished. That's what happens when you let politicians make financial decisions. They can't even figure out when corrosion has damaged a coal fired power station beyond repair - and spend multiple tens of millions before they realise they should have done some more homework, first.
Botched coal-fired Power Station refurbishment expected to lead to $250M loss for taxpayers
WA government says no to new renewable energy : Renew Economy
Collgar Windfarm was constructed on a fixed-price, turn-key basis with Vestas, and is currently fully operational. It was completed ahead of schedule.
It provides regular power output, is not "idled" at any time, and is operated and maintained on contract by Vestas. Vestas has an initial 10 yr O&M contract, with two possible extensions. The turbines life is expected to be 25 years, and all calculations have been done on that basis.
This is an overview presented after 100 turbine had been installed, and around 5 mths before completion of the project -
http://sen.asn.au/images/pages/prese...idesJune13.pdf
Fast facts about Collgar;
Operating at 50% efficiency
111 turbine towers
40,000 cu. m. of concrete
4000 tonnes of reinforcing
270,000 cu. m. of soil excavation
74 kms of roads.
Each tower base contains approximately 360 cu. m. of concrete = approx. 900 tonnes.
Collgar windfarm - Mobile Concreting Solutions
This was a $750M project, and a lot of W.A. companies and employees made a lot of money from it. Everyone from truckies, to concreters, to earthmovers, to electricians, to farmers, to general labourers, benefitted.
The project has unwavering full community support and the generation of an average 792,000MWh of power per year is providing around 4% of Western Australias electricity requirements.
One of the interesting features of windpower in the interior of Australia (which goes against the regular argument that "the wind never blows when you want it to"), is that the wind picks up regularly on sunrise due to the suns heating effect on the land, thus providing early morning power when needed.
They're the ones who played around with electricity power prices, power station ownership, and a dozen other related issues, that have led to distortions in the power generation business on both the East Coast and the West Coast.
None of them had any foresight to see what renewable energy in the form of home solar installations would do to coal-fired power stations profitability - let alone the pressure to close inefficient coal-fired power stations.
In W.A., the Liberal Barnett Govt has blown no less than $250 MILLION of taxpayers money on trying to restore a power station with rusty boilers - and it will never make any money, even after its finished. That's what happens when you let politicians make financial decisions. They can't even figure out when corrosion has damaged a coal fired power station beyond repair - and spend multiple tens of millions before they realise they should have done some more homework, first.
Botched coal-fired Power Station refurbishment expected to lead to $250M loss for taxpayers
WA government says no to new renewable energy : Renew Economy
Collgar Windfarm was constructed on a fixed-price, turn-key basis with Vestas, and is currently fully operational. It was completed ahead of schedule.
It provides regular power output, is not "idled" at any time, and is operated and maintained on contract by Vestas. Vestas has an initial 10 yr O&M contract, with two possible extensions. The turbines life is expected to be 25 years, and all calculations have been done on that basis.
This is an overview presented after 100 turbine had been installed, and around 5 mths before completion of the project -
http://sen.asn.au/images/pages/prese...idesJune13.pdf
Fast facts about Collgar;
Operating at 50% efficiency
111 turbine towers
40,000 cu. m. of concrete
4000 tonnes of reinforcing
270,000 cu. m. of soil excavation
74 kms of roads.
Each tower base contains approximately 360 cu. m. of concrete = approx. 900 tonnes.
Collgar windfarm - Mobile Concreting Solutions
This was a $750M project, and a lot of W.A. companies and employees made a lot of money from it. Everyone from truckies, to concreters, to earthmovers, to electricians, to farmers, to general labourers, benefitted.
The project has unwavering full community support and the generation of an average 792,000MWh of power per year is providing around 4% of Western Australias electricity requirements.
One of the interesting features of windpower in the interior of Australia (which goes against the regular argument that "the wind never blows when you want it to"), is that the wind picks up regularly on sunrise due to the suns heating effect on the land, thus providing early morning power when needed.
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WA has unique weather and land so your wind farm might actually do OK
and be able to provide power as part of the base load.
As for coal fired power stations, while we have a huge hole in the ground full of Brown coal,
right next to the Power station, it isn't going to go anywhere fast.
WA has unique weather and land so your wind farm might actually do OK
and be able to provide power as part of the base load.
As for coal fired power stations, while we have a huge hole in the ground full of Brown coal,
right next to the Power station, it isn't going to go anywhere fast.
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To answer your questions. Yes I have been made an expert witness by the Australian court system.
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Yes jack but you weren't available so I had to go by myself. The mounts quoted for the crookwell turbines. These are the extreme large ones that are being used. Don't believe me about out co2 emissions that's fine. I'll use the greens tactics here say **** you prove me wrong. We a large country with a small population. I just drove across the country again 5000km yet had less than 10 sets of traffic lights and would had pass through less than 200000 people more like maybe 100000. Where else in the world could you do that.
Get the app called planets.
Watch the earth rotate and look at the lights in the dark spots then look at here.
The turbines in WA or SA. Do they have lights in the tops of the shafts.
Get the app called planets.
Watch the earth rotate and look at the lights in the dark spots then look at here.
The turbines in WA or SA. Do they have lights in the tops of the shafts.
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Bit hard to put the car tool box etc etc on the plane. I'm not complaining at all about carbon emissions. It's a bit of a con. It's just another way to slug you extra dollars. I would have thought in this country the waste that is been spent on this crap would have been placed better into hospitals and roads but oh no. As the red headed bitch said we won't be able to breath if we don't reduce the c02 wtf.
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for a 5000km journey, im sure air freight on a heavy toolbox would have been cheaper than the fuel costs, food and accomadation for driving the same distance..
not to mention, you would have seen the vast emptiness that would make nuclear generation a viable alternative...satifies the Not in my back yard crowd, or the vast spaces for solar farms
not to mention, you would have seen the vast emptiness that would make nuclear generation a viable alternative...satifies the Not in my back yard crowd, or the vast spaces for solar farms
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yr right
It's not that I don't believe you, it's I have never heard of it before AND I can't fid any reference to it on the net and I am normally pretty good at searching.
Have also never read anything in the business media.
Don't believe me about out co2 emissions that's fine.
Have also never read anything in the business media.
via onetrack:
...the wind picks up regularly on sunrise due to the suns heating effect on the land, thus providing early morning power when needed...
...the wind picks up regularly on sunrise due to the suns heating effect on the land, thus providing early morning power when needed...
Wind 'power' would have to be one of the most idiotic things of recent history.
Here's a link to the current production of most of Australia's wind 'power'
Wind Energy in Australia | Aneroid
... due to a shortage of wind the 'power' output is about 10% of the maximum potential rated output at this time..
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