South Coast aircraft down 6/7/14
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Compylot is an imbecile. Read any of his posts & you will deduct this. I wouldn't be congratulating the clown for any thing he writes.
Despite any of the speculation here I have concluded that the instructor on board this flight was a competent & respected aviator.
Anybody with any brains can weed the garbage out from some of the reasoned speculation on threads such as these. If you don't like the comments, don't read the thread or block the poster.
Despite any of the speculation here I have concluded that the instructor on board this flight was a competent & respected aviator.
Anybody with any brains can weed the garbage out from some of the reasoned speculation on threads such as these. If you don't like the comments, don't read the thread or block the poster.
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Steady on Jack. You don`t want to be banned again, do ya?
Agreed! Especially with the first paragraph.
Despite any of the speculation here I have concluded that the instructor on board this flight was a competent & respected aviator.
Anybody with any brains can weed the garbage out from some of the reasoned speculation on threads such as these. If you don't like the comments, don't read the thread or block the poster.
Anybody with any brains can weed the garbage out from some of the reasoned speculation on threads such as these. If you don't like the comments, don't read the thread or block the poster.
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Your response to my last is baffling to say the least. If I were to post my thoughts I would likely be blocked by the moderators. Suffice to say that if you really believe that the published findings in relation to the fatal accident involving VH-CKS do not offer causes for the accident then I do not know what will. You say they are merely "assertions of fact". It should be obvious that the statements refer to the VH-CKS accident. What more do you wish for?
You, like many others, are not prepared to offer any clue in your public profile as to your qualifications, aviation experience or anything that may inform whether or not you are simply engaging in argumentative comment for arguments sake.
Your response to my last is baffling to say the least. If I were to post my thoughts I would likely be blocked by the moderators. Suffice to say that if you really believe that the published findings in relation to the fatal accident involving VH-CKS do not offer causes for the accident then I do not know what will. You say they are merely "assertions of fact". It should be obvious that the statements refer to the VH-CKS accident. What more do you wish for?
You, like many others, are not prepared to offer any clue in your public profile as to your qualifications, aviation experience or anything that may inform whether or not you are simply engaging in argumentative comment for arguments sake.
So what does the report say caused the accident?
You seem to be suggesting it's "obvious".
Please just cut and paste the cause that you say is stated in the report.
You seem to be suggesting it's "obvious".
Please just cut and paste the cause that you say is stated in the report.
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Creampuff, if you are unable to accept that the "Contributing Factors" listed, in the report previously mentioned, amount to stating a cause or causes which led to the accident then I fear your comprehension of the English language is flawed.
Contributing factors means, to me at least, that there was no single cause which led to the final outcome. Multiple contributing factors together led to the accident occurring.
You can post whatever response you like to this reply. One of us is obviously as thick as two bricks and I don't think it is me.
Contributing factors means, to me at least, that there was no single cause which led to the final outcome. Multiple contributing factors together led to the accident occurring.
You can post whatever response you like to this reply. One of us is obviously as thick as two bricks and I don't think it is me.
It’s almost certainly me. 
I just thought that an important ‘contributing factor’ – maybe even the most important ‘contributing factor - might have been whatever caused the pilot to make the decision to attempt that landing in those circumstances.
I just thought that an important ‘contributing factor’ – maybe even the most important ‘contributing factor - might have been whatever caused the pilot to make the decision to attempt that landing in those circumstances.
Maybe.
Maybe not.
The report doesn't state pilot stupidity as a cause (or 'contributing factor').
I haven't met too many pilots that I'd consider stupid.
A decision might look stupid in hindsight, but wouldn't it be more helpful if more energy were focussed on investigating what causes otherwise competent and intelligent people to make a decision that seemed to them to be a good decision at the time?
If the implicit message in all these kinds of reports is "stupid pilot", why bother investigating the accident?
Maybe not.
The report doesn't state pilot stupidity as a cause (or 'contributing factor').
I haven't met too many pilots that I'd consider stupid.
A decision might look stupid in hindsight, but wouldn't it be more helpful if more energy were focussed on investigating what causes otherwise competent and intelligent people to make a decision that seemed to them to be a good decision at the time?
If the implicit message in all these kinds of reports is "stupid pilot", why bother investigating the accident?
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Slight thread drift
Try reading Hansard!
Back to the thread.
You won't read bigger drivel anywhere else
Back to the thread.
I see wreckage and remaining body found this afternoon.
South Coast aircraft down 6/7/14
NSW Police have issued a media release advising they have located the missing pilot and aircraft wreckage.
http://m.police.nsw.gov.au/news_media_releases?sq_content_src=%2BdXJsPWh0dHBzJTNBJTJGJT JGZWJpenByZC5wb2xpY2UubnN3Lmdvdi5hdSUyRm1lZGlhJTJGMzkyNTYuaH RtbCZhbGw9MQ%3D%3D
http://m.police.nsw.gov.au/news_media_releases?sq_content_src=%2BdXJsPWh0dHBzJTNBJTJGJT JGZWJpenByZC5wb2xpY2UubnN3Lmdvdi5hdSUyRm1lZGlhJTJGMzkyNTYuaH RtbCZhbGw9MQ%3D%3D
Based on that Spinex we should quickly hear what went wrong :-(
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Wreckage has been brought to the surface.
Plane crash: Search for answers continues PHOTOS, VIDEO | Bay Post
Plane crash: Search for answers continues PHOTOS, VIDEO | Bay Post
Pretty sobering photos there muffman, I'd heard via the bush telegraph that the wreck was pretty chopped up, but that's nasty, a lot worse than the Lightwing that went into the water on Victor 1 a few years back. I'm guessing these poor blokes were a bit higher than 500/1,000' when it all went wrong.