Pontius

I didn't want to resurrect the former ASIC renewal threads (some dating back to 2007), so I thought I'd start a new one. The difference is this one comes with a twist; I'm actually congratulating CASA on a reasonable turnaround time From sending my form off to getting the card in my grubby hand has taken 13 days and that's from WA as well.

I went direct through CASA because my previous card was issued by them and I didn't want to go through the rigmarole of an initial issue with the ID people (yes, I know they run the website and just stick a CASA label on it, alongside their's). I don't consider myself a cheapskate but it was cheaper going direct as well ($186).

I'm not trying to ingratiate myself with our 'regulator' but it looks like they may have finally got their s#*t in one sock and brought ASIC card issuing down to a reasonable time.

The only snag I have with this card is that I never use it (don't fly anywhere with barbed wire fences surrounding the runway) and $186 could be better spent in the bottle shop

Hasherucf

Obvious question.....why get it then ?

Pontius

Just in case I ever need to go to Jandakot

I think it also helps if one gets 'ramp checked' by an FOI. I know I don't have to have one at the places I fly but it's far, far easier to just pull it out of the bag, FOI ticks it off his list and it's one less thing to argue the toss about. I haven't been checked ever in Oz and only a couple of other times around the planet, so I must be due soon

Hasherucf

Do you need one at Jandakot now? As early as last year I was there and didn't need one.

compressor stall

Since we are in the realm of congratulations.

Melbourne airport AUS ASIC renewal. Handed in form Monday morning. Picked up ASIC Thursday lunchtime.

runway16

Only took five weeks. The account bite took less than one week.

T28D

Don't need an ASIC for YPJT

baswell

There is a difference between "never asked to show it" and "not needed".

Jandakot, like the international hub of Birdsville, is a security controlled AD. So if asked, you need one.

Feather #3

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but is it not illegal to fly a VH- registered a/c in Oz without holding either an ASIC or an AVID?

G'day

YPJT

Jandakot along with its interstate cousins are exempted from the ASIC display requirements due to not having RPT services. I believe a certain portion of Morrabbin does have an area where ASICs are required due to RPT services. The only reason they were designated Security Controlled in the first place was to make funding available to upgrade their airside security boundaries. There doesn't appear to be any mention of it within the Act or Regs so I guess the exemption is issued specifically to each airport with an expiry period. Makes sense as it allows the exemption to be removed without legislative change.
More information available here

Feather #3 is correct in that you need either ASIC or AVID under CASA regs to fly. Given that the AVID is useless when trying to access any security controlled airport, the ASIC makes more sense.

Pontious, glad to hear your story and lets hope that just maybe, CLARC at CASA have finlly got their s*&t in one sock. They do have a woeful history though so I won't be popping champagne corks just yet.

YPJT

My post above was not correct.
Regulation 3.03

(4) Subregulation (1) does not apply in relation to a security
controlled airport from or to which no regular public transport
operation operates.

peterc005

The whole ASIC thing is a real pain.

I wish they'd be sensible and make them five, rather than two year, renewals to minimise the cost and effort.

It's a good idea to get an ASIC even if you just fly around the country because eventually you'll need it.

(Also handy for getting your 10% pilot discount at Gloria Jeans DFO Moorabbin)

BlatantLiar

The amount of coffees some people get from there, it would almost pay for their ASICs

peterc005

The ASIC saves 40cents a coffee.

From memory the ASIC costs $200 and lasts for two years, say $2 a week.

If I have five coffees a week from Gloria Jeans then ASIC pays for itself!

VH-XXX

Indeed you are correct!

kingRB

hangon aren't the CASA issued ASIC's renewed by Aviation ID anyway? So I don't think CASA actually deserves any recognition at all for the minimal delay in the renewal processing.

diddly squat

If I have five coffees a week from Gloria Jeans then ASIC pays for itself!

Typical Oz pilot, you remind of the idiots who boast about their wage and include super the the employers cost for workers comp and insurances !

Or the idiots who say, it is ok I pay fro my uniform shirts, Jepps and hotel because it is tax deductible.

Back down to the flying club for you

Bonniciwah

I sometimes go to Essendon Airport at lunch time because I work near there (to grab a burger, check out Gee Bees and be all avgeeky). Out of curiosity, can I go air side if I have my ASIC, or do I also need a valid reason to be there.

Hasherucf

So is a ASIC tax deductible ? I work air-side and need to wear it daily but it seems my tax agent thinks that because its a federal police clearance I just have to wear the cost .

Trent 972

Bonniciwah