FRQ Charlie Bravo

Wow, not sure how I missed this one.
I am sure all will be ok and this is not going to be Y2k (look it up Gen Y) however if you are a small operator and worried just make sure to have a blank paper copy of the Domestic Flight Notification Form and a fax machine handy. Yes yes it's Neanderthal technology but how hard is it to dust the old girl off just in case?

Have fun!



Posted from PPRuNe.org App for Android

Shagpile

Trust me, if you can work out how to post on this Internet forum, you will be able to work the new website.

baswell

The server backend is Java; you are not working in some Java Applet when trying to submit a plan! That's just pretty good HTML. Just don't try to use the "back" button in your browser. Hope they can fix that issue, 'coz that's pretty lame.

kalavo

Ahh maybe there is still hope!

baswell

The website is a *huge* improvement over what you have now and I doubt you will miss NAIPS for windows for even a second.

The only issue is the 3rd party apps getting very little time to implement and test, as well as some missing features for us. (For now: charts and restricted area briefing)

ChrisW67

Just to add to what Bevan and others have said. Command Flight Planner has been modified to allow the user to switch between old and new NAIPS interfaces, and current and new flight notification formats. We intend releasing before the 27 Oct date but at the moment a few missing (upstream) functions and testing interfaces are holding things up. I have seen the new web-based NIS interface and it is indeed an improvement on the old. It has some ability to import information from NAIPS for Windows but I cannot comment on its utility in that regard. Cheers, Chris

Slugfest

AIC H12-32 has been issued.

H32/12 - Changes to Airservices Pilot Briefing Services, NAIPS for Windows and AIS/MET

Slugfest

NOTAM out too:

YMMM C6308/12
ELECTRONIC BRIEFING AND SUBMISSION OF FLT NOTIFICATIONS NOT AVBL
DUE NAIPS INTERNET SERVICE (NIS) INSTALLATION AND COMMISSIONING

THE FLW FACILITIES NOT AVBL:
-INTERNET BRIEFING AND FLT NOTIFICATION SUBMISSION
-AVFAX/METBRIEF/AERIS/VOLMET
-OPERATIONAL INFORMATION VIA FLIGHTWATCH
-STORED FLT FILES HELD IN NAIPS
-INTERNET MET AND NOTAM BRIEFING FM THE AISMET SYSTEM

THE FLW FACILITIES ARE AVBL:
-PHONEAWAY CARD PHONE AND FAX SUBMISSION OF FLT NOTIFICATIONS 1800
805 150
-BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY AVIATION WEATHER BRIEFING AT
WWW.BOM.GOV.AU/AVIATION

FLIGHT NOTIFICATIONS HELD AS NAIPS FILES WITH AN ETD PRIOR TO 1800UTC
SHOULD BE LODGED BEFORE 1100UTC
FROM 10 271200 TO 10 271800

Aimpoint

Any updates on how IOS and Android software is looking come Monday? I use the NAIPS for iphone & ipad app quite a bit - is it likely to be functional when the old system drops dead?

Shagpile

NAIPS update has been approved by Apple. Only 80% of the features re-implemented due to the short time-frame given access to the test system. TODO are SPFIB and cancel/amend plans.

Couldn't get Apple to do an expedited review of OzRunways, so that will be a week before weather is working again in it.

Aimpoint

Thanks for the update Shagpile.

Captain Garmin

Wow NAIPS flight planning finally made it to the web. 10 years too late

If you get sick of the crap (but slightly improved new) ASA NAIPS Internet Service raw text interface use the AVPLAN app on Ipad or Iphone.

It's passed full ASA testing with the NAIPS briefing/plan submission changes planned this weekend.

In the 21st century systems should consolidate,link and graphically display information for us. NAIPS raw text briefing/flight planning is a poor presentation of a huge amount of information.

AVPLAN is like a good flight ops/planning department preparing you a professional customised briefing pack - without the paper!

Do yourself a favour and get a pilot productivity tool like OzR or AVPLAN , invest a little time in reading the manual and get lots of time back to go flying...

If we have to change this weekend turn it to your advantage

My 0.02c

baswell

Looks like NAIPS still not working - can't login via web and us App developers still can't reach the live server either.

Maybe someone should call briefing to get an updated NOTAM about the outage...

Bevan666

Why does an updated NOTAM matter - how would anyone find out about it



Edited: actually they will now. We've flicked back to the old interface:

Shagpile

I hear Alanis Morissette is including this as a line in her next song about Irony

morno

I hear the TAB was paying out $0.90 on Airservices not getting the new NIS working for today,

So now we have all this updated software that won't work......

morno

Shagpile

Confirmed - they have reverted back to the old system for the next couple of days:

https://www.airservicesaustralia.com/brief/Default.asp?

Bevan666

Not sure what you mean there Morno - In AvPlan's case (and others too I assume) the old interface is operational and still works.

We'll wait and flick the switch over to the new interface when it is ready.

My only concern now is testing the flight plan 2012 changes, and getting that ready for the 12 of November. This delay means the time frames to get that in are even further compressed.

We've written the code, but it remains untested. Until we can test we cannot submit to Apple and have it in the hands of our customers in time. Apple approved the last update in 9 hours, and I am unsure that they are going to do it again...

Fun times, to be sure!

Bevan..

Old Akro

A saying involving a fist full of $50 notes and a house of ill repute comes to mind.

OZBUSDRIVER

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28-Oct-2012 0025 UTC

Welcome to NAIPS

Note 1. Due to unforeseen technical issues, the NAIPS Internet Service deployment
has been delayed.

NAIPS web interface remains the previous Pilot Briefing Service and
NAIPS for Windows software.

Please contact airservices briefing office for assistance if required.

Note 2. Successful submission of all FPL will be confirmed by the receipt of a
NAIPS acceptance message. Pilots should check this message for accuracy
and retain or print a copy.


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