Yarrawonga, Doesn't Want Visitors
A masterpiece of almost meaningless passive voice ambiguity and inconsistency. I’m guessing the work experience kid in the council office drafted it.
I wonder how I work out the difference between “aerodrome property”, “prohibited areas” and “operational areas”. Is there a map?
How do I work out if I’m “actually” engaged in operational procedures instead of … errmmm … virtual procedures?
Who gets fined if dogsh*t doesn’t get picked up and properly disposed of? The dog?
Is “shall” intended to mean something different from “must”? If not, why different words?
Great idea defining “C.A.S.A.” Where else does “C.A.S.A.” get used on the sign?
If I flew in there, I’d ignore it (after a good laugh).
I wonder how I work out the difference between “aerodrome property”, “prohibited areas” and “operational areas”. Is there a map?
How do I work out if I’m “actually” engaged in operational procedures instead of … errmmm … virtual procedures?
Who gets fined if dogsh*t doesn’t get picked up and properly disposed of? The dog?
Is “shall” intended to mean something different from “must”? If not, why different words?
Great idea defining “C.A.S.A.” Where else does “C.A.S.A.” get used on the sign?
If I flew in there, I’d ignore it (after a good laugh).
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Airport of Intimidation
This "IS" unfortunately an airport that is surely very very confused regarding its obligations to the rate payers and visitors to the area.We no longer are prepared to use YYWG and now use corowa just to be safe and avoid the possibility of expensive litigation. One of our aero club members who was about to start training at yarrawonga has now begun training at YTOC. He also contacted the Miora Shire regarding this required written permit and was told he would not be issued with such.
I'm sure in time that the Shire will see the error of their way and amend this situation and re sign the airport.
We were also advised by the shire that the airport ARO was told by the authorities that he was not permitted to use his unregistered unroadworthy uninsured (due to no registration) quad bike on the grounds.
It really seems that perhaps a big broom needs to go through the whole management of this airport before its too late ??
I'm sure in time that the Shire will see the error of their way and amend this situation and re sign the airport.
We were also advised by the shire that the airport ARO was told by the authorities that he was not permitted to use his unregistered unroadworthy uninsured (due to no registration) quad bike on the grounds.
It really seems that perhaps a big broom needs to go through the whole management of this airport before its too late ??
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Maybe some letters to the training organisation explaining that these restrictions are sending their business to the competition.
I know i'd be all over councils behinds if it was done to my business.
I know i'd be all over councils behinds if it was done to my business.
Developers are encouraged to assist in the funding of new works, services and facilities required by the expanding residential population, particularly in the Shire's four major townships and on land within the
Yarrawonga-Bundalong Corridor
Yarrawonga-Bundalong Corridor
Hmmmmm...time to start up the letters. Aerodromes are not good neighbours for land hungry developers.
The existing use and future development of the Yarrawonga Aerodrome should be protected from and not impeded by the urban development of Yarrawonga;
�� Development of the Yarrawonga Aerodrome will promote the commercial sustainability of the facility as a regionally significant transport link and leisure facility. Business and tourist development that can link with the airport will be encouraged; and
�� Development to the east of the township will be generally in accordance with the recommendations of the Yarrawonga to Bathumi Development Plan 2002.
�� Development of the Yarrawonga Aerodrome will promote the commercial sustainability of the facility as a regionally significant transport link and leisure facility. Business and tourist development that can link with the airport will be encouraged; and
�� Development to the east of the township will be generally in accordance with the recommendations of the Yarrawonga to Bathumi Development Plan 2002.
You can bet London to a brick the first two aims will not be in accordance with the Development Plan!
Development Plan at page 9. Hopefully, the boundary stays that way above the highway.
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Maybe some of these muppets that make said decisions affecting airfields should go spend some time in the GAFA
Maybe then they might begin to to realise the community benefits of a functioning/accessible airfield.
Maybe then they might begin to to realise the community benefits of a functioning/accessible airfield.
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All RAA there ...???
RUBBISH!
There are several active businesses there working on/with GA Aircraft including a flying school, a refurb business and a couple of LAMES from memory. The lovely lady at Pumkin Head doesn't discriminate and neither does the aero shop where you can also get a cup of tea or a cool drink, or a hangar for your aircraft overnight and a hire car to take you into town.
Don't wipe the airfield off just because the Council puts up a stupid damned sign that means virtually nothing if you are a normal, responsible pilot. And perhaps give them credit for widening the bitumen, putting in a new terminal building to enhance the facilities and promoting the "air park" environment concept in a business climate where most councils are trying to subdivide.
It just happens that the AAAA is holding its Spring Fly In and AGM at YYWG 21-23 September which will probably see at least 100 aircraft arrive there for the weekend. Most of these are GA aircraft sans training wheels and I suggest all you knockers book your accommodation early because it will be BIG!
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RUBBISH!
There are several active businesses there working on/with GA Aircraft including a flying school, a refurb business and a couple of LAMES from memory. The lovely lady at Pumkin Head doesn't discriminate and neither does the aero shop where you can also get a cup of tea or a cool drink, or a hangar for your aircraft overnight and a hire car to take you into town.
Don't wipe the airfield off just because the Council puts up a stupid damned sign that means virtually nothing if you are a normal, responsible pilot. And perhaps give them credit for widening the bitumen, putting in a new terminal building to enhance the facilities and promoting the "air park" environment concept in a business climate where most councils are trying to subdivide.
It just happens that the AAAA is holding its Spring Fly In and AGM at YYWG 21-23 September which will probably see at least 100 aircraft arrive there for the weekend. Most of these are GA aircraft sans training wheels and I suggest all you knockers book your accommodation early because it will be BIG!
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Locked Gates
Just imagine the debacle that's going to take place when all the planes fly in for the "big yarrawonga fly inn" only to find the gates locked, and of course those very welcoming signs warning of entering without " written permission".
What a joy for the poor unsuspecting pilots, welcome to yarrawonga !!
They will ask the ARO for written permission as required by the MIORA SHIRE AIRPORT SIGNAGE only to be told by the airport manager to "stuff the shire" there idiots !!
Surely the shire needs to re word the signage prior to this event to hopefully save some face, common sense must prevail !!
What a joy for the poor unsuspecting pilots, welcome to yarrawonga !!
They will ask the ARO for written permission as required by the MIORA SHIRE AIRPORT SIGNAGE only to be told by the airport manager to "stuff the shire" there idiots !!
Surely the shire needs to re word the signage prior to this event to hopefully save some face, common sense must prevail !!
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Signage
Wouldn't it be nice and friendly to see a "Welcome to Yarrawonga Aerodrome" at the entrance and the "Conditions of Use" removed and left for the 'air side'.
That would be inviting and 'friendly'.
That would be inviting and 'friendly'.
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Well Guess What !!
It seems the ARO and Moira Shire are finally backing down on the "written permission" access for the Yarrawonga Airport.
The shire has blotted out the "written permission" wording and new signs are being worded.
And who ever said the sword was more mighty than the pen !!
AT LAST.
The shire has blotted out the "written permission" wording and new signs are being worded.
And who ever said the sword was more mighty than the pen !!
AT LAST.
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Creampuff...
Gold! 
Exactly! Try telling that to the clowns that rewrote the PNG CAR Parts - look at Part 119 to see what I mean!
I always understood that 'shall' and 'must' were (in practice) interchangeable, but that if you really wanted to be pedantic, 'shall' applied to a person or entity that had an obligation to act in a certain way, and 'must' applied to an inanimate object.
For example (using the Yarrawonga Aerodrome sign) 'Dogsh1t MUST be picked up', or 'The dog SHALL pick up its sh1t.'
Or words to that effect.
Also, for all, it's MOIRA shaire, not MIORA.
Who gets fined if dogsh*t doesn’t get picked up and properly disposed of? The dog?
Is “shall” intended to mean something different from “must”? If not, why different words?
I always understood that 'shall' and 'must' were (in practice) interchangeable, but that if you really wanted to be pedantic, 'shall' applied to a person or entity that had an obligation to act in a certain way, and 'must' applied to an inanimate object.
For example (using the Yarrawonga Aerodrome sign) 'Dogsh1t MUST be picked up', or 'The dog SHALL pick up its sh1t.'
Or words to that effect.
Also, for all, it's MOIRA shaire, not MIORA.
