Heard from a little birdie that a pilot was very recently witnessed performing some antics at a hangar BBQ close to Melbourne and that CASA happened to be there complete with video camera.
Rumour has it that their licence will never ever see the light of day again.
That is literally all I've heard, so would be interested to hear if there is any truth in it!
Absolutely no idea if it was GA or RA-Aus registered, which isn't really the point. The "will never hold a licence again" part was what I was interested in hearing and wonder how that would hold up.
CASA should go back to their own files on all the aircraft they have managed to destroy and in particular one hangar party in Melbourne where a senior mgr was seen taking a child, (presumably his), into an aircraft which shortly after was witnessed by all to neatly gutz itself as the wheels retracted.
one hangar party in Melbourne where a senior mgr was seen taking a child, (presumably his), into an aircraft which shortly after was witnessed by all to neatly gutz itself as the wheels retracted.
If this is a Merlin you are talking about, the aircraft had just been repaired following a wheels up.
I remember it now from a PPRuNe thread some time back which listed every aircraft DCA, CAA, DOTARS, CASA, operated and what happened to that machinery. If anyone remembers, feel free to repost it here for nostalgia.
CASA have the worst aviation safety/crash record of any operator in Australia.
anyone remember the one in the crash comix where a CAA(CASA) employee wrote a story about his BFR in a bonza and retracted the flaps on roll-out (YSCB) only to find the flap lever also operated the gear.........................
Yes, I remember - so what!!! He's not the first person to have this type of mishap and certainly won't be the last. Just because the person involved worked for CASA doesn't mean that they're immune from such events.
Anyway, what's this got to do with this particular thread??
Personally, I don't think so. I can think of numerous pilots that have had "wheels up" landings, ran out of fuel and other issues (VCA's etc) and none of them were prosecuted, had their licences cancelled or anything close to that.
As I said in my previous post, this is getting well off topic.
CASA have the worst aviation safety/crash record of any operator in Australia.
The whole sorry saga encompasses the Metro, Bill Lord's prang at Tocumwal, The Port Moresby Gliding Club and many many other's that ended in circumstances any private entity would have been hung, drawn and quartered for. And then, for good measure, chucked off a cliff.
Yes many have talked their way out of wheels up landings, but any one operator has never had so many aircraft either destroyed or damaged.
To his credit, a contributor to PPRuNe who put the A 36 on it's belly mentioned above, wrote a lengthy educational article in the CASA "blurb" which was intended to help prevent further instances. To take shots now is possibly a bit off. Anyway, we all had a go at him years back.
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It happened c43years ago! Get a life please
I had a life once, but CASA fkuced that. Any other suggestions?
I'm sure that the chap concerned (engineering boss at the time) was quite embarrassed but the incident was a useful example of the holes in the cheese lining up nicely. Talking to him only a month or two ago and he is still doing fine these days.
Sometimes the quids and pros line up nicely also.
Some of you might recall a couple of stalwarts dropping the DH125 (CAO) on its belly at Avalon a long time ago (as I recall a Miracle was shooting circuits and had a problem which set them up for a foul up). As it happened the Flying Unit had been trying to get funding to mod the aircraft to a later variant without any success. The gutser provided a convenient circumstance to do the desired upgrade mod.
And, in respect of the OP's philosophical concerns, there is a whole canyon between a screw up - to which we all are at risk - and deliberately inappropriate behaviour - which most of us endeavour to avoid.
I'll have to remember that one in case of a future foul up...Mirage/Hornet/F35 in the circuit, hence I stopped flying the aeroplane and paying attention to its configuration.
Thing is if you are with CASA yr colleagues will change any criminality/misfeasance to just a simple breach of the "code of conduct"... a CYA doc.if ever there was one.
Remember the AyaToller. (Other) People get crucified for not entering a defect in to ther MR. The recommendation that his go to the CDPP fell off the LSD handcart and into the shredder/rubbish chute/whatever. Not something that happens to the industry individual. Bang! Gotcha.!
The Stasi like to go out with a video camera with a view to recording something, anything!!, that in their opine might have a bearing on "safety" as they think it should be. We should (must) play the same game. Any approach by any CASA person who wants a chat...you must have that pocket video or sound recorder ON. Talk to any CASA person on yr own... AT YR PERIL.
As for the BBQ antics..what were they ???
CASA doesnt even have to get a conviction. They can cancel a licence, deem "not a fit and proper person" and the victim has a life sentence without justice. eg.. J Quadrio.
A regulator with a "just culture"? justar$e, rather.
Lol. I like that. The thread is named "Casa strikes again".. How about, "another d!ckhead' strikes again" and pays the penalty. Fly like a tossa, expect to be dead or at best, getting a letter. Pretty simple.
Word has it... the "hangar BBQ" thing was a simple "administrative oversight." The barbequer (BBQR) did not have a valid Australian Sausage Incineration Card (ASIC) with the usual GFPT endorsements (gloves, flipper, prong, tongs). So he will get porked and probably hauled over the coals.
Lol. I like that. The thread is named "Casa strikes again".. How about, "another d!ckhead' strikes again" and pays the penalty. Fly like a tossa, expect to be dead or at best, getting a letter. Pretty simple.
You obviously have more information than any of us, so let us know what capers the "tossa" was cutting so we can make up our own minds before the year 2025 when it gets to The AAT as a one sided appeal.
I must say people like you are either CASA, CASA stooges, CASA "protected species" or simply someone who hasn't been done over yet.
When, not if, you get the rough end of the pineapple, I'll at least remember your PPRuNe "handle" Merv.
Remember those immortal words from CASA: pilot's are either criminals or criminals who haven't been caught yet.
About 10 years ago CASA didn't seem to care about the occasional BBQ "fun," merely a word in your year about it at worst, perhaps, "mate, you could have gone a little lower on that last beat-up" but certainly not these days.
Word has it that the aircraft in question on this occasion was Radial powered.
Frank..People like me?...Sorry mate, im not CASA.. I just find it amusing that so much whinging and complaining goes on about people getting in trubz with the authorities when they break the rules. Not one of you have made a post(in this thread) promoting responsible flying, only complaining how the bad the boogey man CASA is such a big problem. This guy obviously did something that the powers that be deem to be so bad they are taking his licence off him. And yes, i have had a please explain from them once when i inadvertently busted CTA. AS I BLOODY WELL SHOULD HAVE. If im ever caught flying in a manner that deserves total stripping of my licence then i DESERVE the rough end of the pineapple. Hows about promoting some airmenship instead of complaining like a little girl when people get what they deserve. Ive had a gutfull of watching people get away with crap that could see them or more importantly other people wind up as a smoking crater in the ground. If you dont wanna play by the rules, let me know when your going flying and ill keep my students out of the air. Cheers mate, and ill also remember your handle.
Frank is right, it's guilty until proven innocen and you obviously haven't been a victim yet. I've been targeted once for something I didn't do and it was very hard work and a lot of research to prove my innocence. Even after providing fully documented and verified evidence, I got a "consider yourself cautioned," which is in my book an un-earned black mark.
