Pilots a little too involved in the Festival
To answer the original question
- pretty much just as it was managed.
Clear the area of those not involved, negate the fire risk as much as possible, secure the structure, access the victims, triage / treat as required, remove from the site in the safest way manageable.
There may not be a specific management program for this exact event, but the basic principles can be applied to pretty much any incident.
Oh, and then organise a bunch of 'counselling' ..........
Seriously, how would one manage this in an ideal world?
Clear the area of those not involved, negate the fire risk as much as possible, secure the structure, access the victims, triage / treat as required, remove from the site in the safest way manageable.
There may not be a specific management program for this exact event, but the basic principles can be applied to pretty much any incident.
Oh, and then organise a bunch of 'counselling' ..........
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I must say the old Ferris Wheel stood up to it well, 600kg @ 65 Kts is a decent hit, well done to the kids on the wheel, and thanks be to (insert your particular god here) for what is a fantastic outcome. 
Old Bar is neither certified or registered. No OLS data is published and no NOTAM service would be available. However if the owner was aware of the location of and likely infringement of the ferris wheel on any take off or approach surfaces, some hard questions will need to be answered as to why they allowed their ALA to be used.
Pilot said he just didnt see the ferris wheel after takeoff and hes taken off from there hundreds of times when there hasnt been a wheel there. Anyway, very lucky to have no injuries.
Just saw on the news, they showed a quick image of the strip...... with a white cross on it.
There before they attempted to take off/land maybe?
There before they attempted to take off/land maybe?
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"'He said the plane "didn't sound right" as it came over'
Engine failure after takeoff?"
Your average punter isn't used to being right under an ultralight taking off, or at low level, so his idea of not sounding right might differ from ours.
Engine failure after takeoff?"
Your average punter isn't used to being right under an ultralight taking off, or at low level, so his idea of not sounding right might differ from ours.
Ultralight.........surprise, surprise.
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Ferris Wheel.
With regards to the last post, what a load of unmitigated bullshirt. Reason for weight restriction is 600 so they don't do as much damage when they hit Ferris Wheels. FFS. The weight restriction as I thought is to make them easier to fly, you know, inertia and all that BS. By all outward appearances, this bloke faxed up bigtime. However, I am happy to be availed of the real reason for his embarrassment. Bet the son-in-law will be keen for another fair-ground ride.
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I suppose,
The two seat RAA limit is because it's ok to kill one friend, but not three. Spare me please. Next someone will tell me a RAA pilot is not capable of flying a 4 seat Jabiru. The poor bugger clearly effed up.
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I suppose,
The two seat RAA limit is because it's ok to kill one friend, but not three. Spare me please. Next someone will tell me a RAA pilot is not capable of flying a 4 seat Jabiru. The poor bugger clearly effed up.
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It was one of those Cheetah machines. They must have the highest prang per plane/mile of any type known to man.
Amazing outcome. I guess the ride operator will be testing out the RAA 3rd party insurance programme.
It was one of those Cheetah machines. They must have the highest prang per plane/mile of any type known to man.
Amazing outcome. I guess the ride operator will be testing out the RAA 3rd party insurance programme.
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How can you not see a ferris wheel? Well, small portable ferris wheel that is usually not there, not the brightest of days, nose high attitude in a climb configuration. And the Morgan Sierra does have quite a longish snout. Unless you already knew it was there I would image it would be quite difficult to see under the nose in the climb out in any aircraft capable of getting in and out of Old Bar.
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Medical / eyesight requirement for RAA?
Fit enough to drive a car, same as the new GA medical requirements due shortly.
If there is a white cross on there as suggested then I would expect some serious legal action including Civil and Legal repercussions. If true, there is simply no excuse.
Fit enough to drive a car, same as the new GA medical requirements due shortly.
If there is a white cross on there as suggested then I would expect some serious legal action including Civil and Legal repercussions. If true, there is simply no excuse.
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[QUOTE]How can you not see a ferris wheel? Well, small portable ferris wheel that is usually not there, not the brightest of days, nose high attitude in a climb configuration. And the Morgan Sierra does have quite a longish snout./QUOTE]
yep, and typical of RAA training.......get in and go fly..!!...irrespective of what's going on around you. And, a 10 or so knot northeasterly blowing at the time to.
hope the full weight of the law is imposed on the clown
yep, and typical of RAA training.......get in and go fly..!!...irrespective of what's going on around you. And, a 10 or so knot northeasterly blowing at the time to.
hope the full weight of the law is imposed on the clown
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Yeah yeah, so typical of RAAus bull****e.... I never knew a certificate or licence could actually be the cause of something....
Rumor has it, it was a late go around situation. So nose high, drift off centerline scenario....
No PPL holder would ever do that...
especially at locations with parallel runways in class D....
Rumor has it, it was a late go around situation. So nose high, drift off centerline scenario....
No PPL holder would ever do that...
especially at locations with parallel runways in class D....
Sorry Ozaggie but one of the reasons for the 600kg limit is to minimise inertia, reducing collateral damage such as if a LSA crashes into a house, though I agree its also to make it easier to fly too. In any event its good fortune that no one was hurt here.
wrong..
"The weight restriction as I thought is to make them easier to fly, you know, inertia and all that BS."
Actually if you care to do some research, you will see that LESS inertia i.e an item with less weight ( and possibly force), will make an object harder to keep stabilized. It will be removed from it's "path" whatever the direction easier requiring more control inputs.Having flown a
number of different aircraft the heavier aircraft in GA are generally easier to fly particularly in bumpy conditions.. Go try it BEFORE you crap on about GAs flying skill supremacy.
About a month ago it looks like a GA pilot continued on into imc conditions killing himself and his 2 pax. Poor decision making if in fact this is what it is not a GA vs RA thing, it is a "we as pilots are responsible for most of the accidents" thing.
Have you read any human factors lately?
Actually if you care to do some research, you will see that LESS inertia i.e an item with less weight ( and possibly force), will make an object harder to keep stabilized. It will be removed from it's "path" whatever the direction easier requiring more control inputs.Having flown a
number of different aircraft the heavier aircraft in GA are generally easier to fly particularly in bumpy conditions.. Go try it BEFORE you crap on about GAs flying skill supremacy.
About a month ago it looks like a GA pilot continued on into imc conditions killing himself and his 2 pax. Poor decision making if in fact this is what it is not a GA vs RA thing, it is a "we as pilots are responsible for most of the accidents" thing.
Have you read any human factors lately?
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