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Old 6th Jul 2011, 05:15
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The Queensland Air Museum at Caloundra would dearly love to have a Queen Air, particularly an RFDS example. So if you know someone who owns one ...

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What was TAA's reasoning for operating the Queenair?

Did they operate them two crew?
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Noticed XAE and FWG back on the register according to Australian Aviation.
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Fact 1. Army pilots did fly the aircraft as PIC without Unionair pilots
I cannot recall any Army pilots flying either RUU or FWG without UnionAir pilots as PIC between 1970 and 1980. If they did it would have been after 1980.

Fact 2, These two aircraft in PNG operations struggled to get above about 18000 at the weights they were operated at.
We really only had one weight and that was MTOW. With the APR in RUU, there was no requirement to climb above 7000 feet above the terrain as this was timing limitation of the APR. But when required for photography, 25000 was a long climb but doable.


Fact 3. Helmets were not worn by Army pilots whilst flying these aircraft and the oxy system was a constant flow system fitted by Unionair
RUU had the same system as fitted to the Porter and that included the masks and helmets.



RUU at Rendani
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601 if you have any more pix of Unionair ops in PNG or elsewhere I'd love to get a look at em.
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601 if you have any more pix of Unionair ops in PNG or elsewhere I'd love to get a look at em.
I have but they are slides (remember those things). Scanning them is in my bucket list.
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Sweet - when you do, drop me a PM. Cheers.
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I see one at YCDR that looks recently operated, until the right hand engine needed some serious attention.

Must be a expensive thing to own
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Jaba, that's FDV, which features extensively earlier in this thread....
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Come on 601 your not that busy
OK you are but just put some compliance requests aside for a few days
I reckon you have some interesting stuff
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OK you are but just put some compliance requests aside for a few days
That is also on my bucket list.
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The Australian Army Queenairs were operated with Army pilots only initially. Bernie Forrest, Tippet, Howard and Ferguson took the first two to Indonesia 1969.

On return Bernie went off to do other things, Dick Tippet took over as section commander and I took Dick's place as the replacement pilot. We were supporting the School of Survey in Albury when Ferguson killed himself and others at the Shepparton Fly-in.

That aircraft was replaced but the incident had serious repercussions for Army Aviation across the board and, I understand for insurance reasons, a Union Air civil pilot joined the crew. This did not prevent the Army pilots flying in command and the great majority of jobs the two guys swapped seats day about.

My first job was to Wewak photographing the Indonesian border in the Star Mountains. We had the brand new replacement aircraft (actually a Beech 70 but the only difference I could see was the window shape). Pure photography at 25,000 and it took a long time to get there. Helmets did not come in until much later and we used headsets and kids airline seat emergency oxygen masks on full flow. Later we got canulas which were not much better.

That aircraft was burned to a cinder on return to Toowoomba in a hangar fire.

The bends incident was on one of our Wewak flights when the Survey Captain came for a ride. I can't recall whether he had been diving previous but we aborted the trip at around 20,000 as he writhed in excruciating pain on the floor from shoulders and knees.

Later jobs were Aerodist out of Goroka (what a godsend is GPS!), Terrain profiling out of Woomera and photography and aerodist out of Padang in Sumatra.

Wonderful aircraft but pretty terrifying in the afternoon punching into a big CB over the PNG mountains, really wished we had radar.

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Any Queenair's flying in 2024?
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601, 11 years have passed, have you had time to do those photos
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Old 5th Feb 2024, 22:45
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sms777:-

XAE lives in Perth.
Currently advertised for sale in Califournia, still wearing the VH-XAE registration.
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601, 11 years have passed, have you had time to do those photos
Sorry about that. I saw the new post and thought "B88ger"
Retirement, Wooden Boats, Mens Sheds have been taking up my time. Don't know how I fitted work in!!

But I did scan all my slides. I know the directory they are in.
One has to remember that we did not have digital cameras back last Century. All 35mm slides.
Here is a teaser. RUU at Rendani June 1977.


VH-RUU at Rendani Airport. We had to change the fuel cell inboard of the starboard engine.

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Old 6th Feb 2024, 18:57
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If not the Queenair, the Mini Moke certainly dates that picture - very cool
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Old 6th Feb 2024, 19:21
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Mini Moke - standard company airport car in the day.
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If not the Queenair, the Mini Moke certainly dates that picture - very coo
Note the colour of the Mini Moke.
Fitted in the back of a Caribou.
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Originally Posted by Capt Fathom
Mini Moke - standard company airport car in the day.
Yep - I had one! Very often used to be borrowed by pilots to run into town to grab something to eat!

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