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Old 25th May 2011, 05:25   #1 (permalink)
 
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Anybody read yesterday's MX?

Train Annoucement:
Ladies and gentleman, this service is six minutes behind schedule because the train in front of us is a stops-all-stations. The only way past would be to fly over it but if I was called a pilot, I'd probably be making another 100 grand a year.

Given the public perception battle that is going on, it would seem that Qantas is well in front.

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Old 25th May 2011, 05:32   #2 (permalink)
 
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True! When I left cityrail and went flying I dropped about $40k from my salary
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Old 25th May 2011, 05:58   #3 (permalink)
 
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You can earn $80k+ base (+ overtime) driving a forklift in a factory.

You can earn $80k+ base (+ overtime) driving a 5 tonne delivery truck.

What can you do?

Don't become a pilot if you want to make big bucks!
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Old 25th May 2011, 07:46   #4 (permalink)
 
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Almost anywhere!

Gosh, my sister worked at the Dulux factory over 10 years ago and the factory hands and forklift drivers were earning $68k and were calling in the union about a pay rise.

My olds were in Kunna and came across a guy who had a forklift ticket and was living in a tent earning near 6 figures, but that's Kunna. Jobs in the city definitely pay more than regionals too.

What is the average salary these days?
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Old 25th May 2011, 09:34   #5 (permalink)
 
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correct me if I'm wrong... I heard this directly from the mouth of a current Metro train driver in melbourne... it was at the start of the year so my facts may be slightly out but I'll bet they're close to reality...

Want to become a Metro train driver? They'll pay for your training. In fact this guy claimed you get paid while you study the course... (pretty decent figures as well). Apparently some of the initial tests are done at home on your computer, so feel free to cheat (probably some form of aptitude tests or something)

Starting sallary? $85,000 plus overtime. everyone does overtime. so the average driver walks away with $100,000 a year. shift rostering from what he told me was pretty nice, no pressure to work if boss asks you to cover another work who is sick, but if you do, obviously paid extra, sundays / weekends in general you're paid extra and i think certain allowances for certain routes. I think they throw in some $$$ every time you go through the city loop.

sounds pretty nice to me. can anyone confirm/deny?
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Old 25th May 2011, 10:17   #6 (permalink)
 
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You can earn $80k+ base (+ overtime) driving a forklift in a factory.

You can earn $80k+ base (+ overtime) driving a 5 tonne delivery truck.

What can you do?

Don't become a pilot if you want to make big bucks!
I would also like to know where these jobs are, give me the names of some companys that pay this much money for that type of job. You always here of these sorts of jobs, but they seem to evaporate when you want one.
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Old 25th May 2011, 10:58   #7 (permalink)
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It's only been in the last couple of years that I have made more money being a pilot than in my many 'unskilled' jobs, when I drove trucks I made $70k per annum and that was in 1993!
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Old 25th May 2011, 11:00   #8 (permalink)
 
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I already gave you one well known company.

How about a diesel mechanic for a well known hire company. $4,000 per week gross. Heard about someone who got that one last week.

There are plenty of jobs out there and whilst pilot wages decrease or remain static, the rest of the jobs in the country continually increase.

Pretty soon the average wage will overtake the J* FO wage

The average wage in Australia is now $64,641.

State Average Annual Wage
Australian Capital Territory $75,514
Western Australia $70,101
New South Wales $65,863
Queensland $63,840
Victoria $62,847
Northern Territory $61,870
South Australia $59,176
Tasmania $55,255

(My guess is the mining boom is boosting the WA figures)
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Old 25th May 2011, 11:01   #9 (permalink)
 
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Same as how you 'can' make $80k flying planes.. It's just a lot more difficult
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Old 25th May 2011, 11:05   #10 (permalink)
 
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So a delivery truck driver gets paid $16000 more than the national average, RUBBISH
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Old 25th May 2011, 11:20   #11 (permalink)
 
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We just recently employed someone at my work whom left a job driving a 5 tonne delivery truck on $80k + overtime.

Times are a changing..... if you work hard, you get paid well, seemingly unless you are a pilot.
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Old 25th May 2011, 11:48   #12 (permalink)
 
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Well that must include engineers, you said earlier about a diesel mechanic on $4000/pw, so that's > $200k a year. Now I am very close to a 5 cat LAME working for an airline that doesn't get any where near that.
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Old 25th May 2011, 12:06   #13 (permalink)
 
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Blame all of this on the cut-price airline trade!
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Old 25th May 2011, 12:21   #14 (permalink)
 
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What I am saying is that these big pay packets for relativly unskilled work are urban
myth, ask to see the group certificate before you believe those wages.
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Old 25th May 2011, 12:39   #15 (permalink)
 
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I employ forkies and 8tonne drivers and i assure you they dont receive that sort of renumeration !
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Old 25th May 2011, 13:20   #16 (permalink)
 
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Just had a look at the 'Rail Industry Award 2010' and I would suggest based on an Operational Level 6 Driver of an 8,000Tonne they are on $835.70 per Week. + Allowances. http://www.airc.gov.au/awardmod/awards/rail.pdf
So about the same as an FO on a regional when you add all the allowances. an extra $100k would put a driver on par with a Captain of Narrow body.
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Old 25th May 2011, 13:53   #17 (permalink)
 
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I dunno Arnold, maybe they pay more in Vic versus South Australia. Times are changing and people get paid a lot of money these days for doing crap jobs and doing crap at those jobs.

It sounds like you don't want to believe!

Pack your RV and head to Victoria where the gases is obviously greener or head to the rigs where they pay $250k for a cook and $350k for an electrician.
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Old 25th May 2011, 14:14   #18 (permalink)
 
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Yes but rmcdonal you are doing something that many in aviation are guilty of.

The award is the bare legal minimum, not something to aspire to.

It takes the melbourne metro operator 72 weeks to train their drivers. There are no train driver 'sausage factories' pumping out hundreds of legally qualified ones a year.

They get paid well above the award. The figures stated before are accurate, about 85k base but most getting near 100k with overtime.

Add 100k to that =200k, now how many (non QF) pilots in aus earn that?
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Old 25th May 2011, 21:53   #19 (permalink)
 
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Wow! The ACT is full of high achievers...!
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Old 25th May 2011, 23:13   #20 (permalink)
 
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Wow! The ACT is full of high achievers...!
The reality is that they have to pay people more in the ACT because nobody wants to live there.
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