Bonanza vs 206 vs 210
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Bonanza vs 206 vs 210
From an operational point of view which one is the most cost effective single Bonanza 206 210 or something else most sectors no more than 150nm into bush strips. My prefrence is for the 206 as a good alrounder. Company I work for is looking at getting a new plane and looking at all options just thought I would ask the folk on prune for there views.
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A36 = 150
C210 = 150
C206 = 120
1.0 60L burn of fuel
1.0 60L burn of fuel
1.2 75L burn of fuel
C206 will be more expensive and time consuming to get there.
C210/A36 increased costs with retrac especially the A36 which is expensive to maintain and carries a smaller payload than a 210/206.
C206 would be the winner IMO
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C210 = 150
C206 = 120
1.0 60L burn of fuel
1.0 60L burn of fuel
1.2 75L burn of fuel
C206 will be more expensive and time consuming to get there.
C210/A36 increased costs with retrac especially the A36 which is expensive to maintain and carries a smaller payload than a 210/206.
C206 would be the winner IMO
Considered an Airvan?
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Agree. Go the C206 - at least for the purposes you've got in mind. That said, if I had the spare cash for a personal aeroplane, it'd be a Bonanza for sure (it's a Beechcraft - 'nuff said); beautiful handling, good performer, etc. However, as already mentioned, not the most practical aeroplane for bush ops. The C206 may not be as pretty or as fast, but it's a good workhorse - and a proven aeroplane.
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I'd search for a 206 that goes pretty quick and put an IO550 in it. The overhead induction one tho not the standard. Handles the hot weather a lot better and gives you a nice increase in speed, and climb/takeoff performance. Throw the Stol Kit on her and you'll be away laughing. Being only short hops you wont need long range tanks and they are a lot tougher that a 210 for the steep, rough bush strip. I dont know anything about the A36 but with retractable gear they prob arent ideal. The airvan is tough, but as slow as the second coming of Christ. Good, easy to maintain machine tho.
The airvan on a 150 mile sector is only 0.1 slower than a 206. You can carry 2 extra punters (more payload/revenue), burn a similar fuel figure and spend less on the maintenance with fixed gear and manual flaps.
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C206 would have the be the most popular as mentioned so far. The C210 not a good short fielder & the rear punters almost need to be legless (drunk would help too)
Small wheels & mud makes for a mess with the retract U/C.Something to consider when hauling the mail out of marginal ruff strips:-) Good idea to stay away from any retract plane over those distances.
Ideally C185 for all round usefulness but that's not been mentioned. The A36 although a good machine I reckon would be the last choice. As mentioned expensive to keep in top order & more a 'roller' of a plane than a work horse. Just look around at what types are reg used for the mission you mention, mostly the C206/210 & in the latter years the van not many A36's doing bush Top End work for Co's. I don't know what everyone sees in the A36 anyway, awkward to get in & out of for the driver/s. Ugly control set up but I guess it's personal choice there.The only good thing about the Bo is it's a Beech:-)
'WD' the PA32 although another good plane I think isn't suited either, again another airframe that's not used for top end bush bashing by the Nthern operators. The "T" tail loves the ground on a hot day.........real curvature of the earth stuff in that machine
Wmk2 ................misses the outback type flying in VMC
Small wheels & mud makes for a mess with the retract U/C.Something to consider when hauling the mail out of marginal ruff strips:-) Good idea to stay away from any retract plane over those distances.Ideally C185 for all round usefulness but that's not been mentioned. The A36 although a good machine I reckon would be the last choice. As mentioned expensive to keep in top order & more a 'roller' of a plane than a work horse. Just look around at what types are reg used for the mission you mention, mostly the C206/210 & in the latter years the van not many A36's doing bush Top End work for Co's. I don't know what everyone sees in the A36 anyway, awkward to get in & out of for the driver/s. Ugly control set up but I guess it's personal choice there.The only good thing about the Bo is it's a Beech:-)
'WD' the PA32 although another good plane I think isn't suited either, again another airframe that's not used for top end bush bashing by the Nthern operators. The "T" tail loves the ground on a hot day.........real curvature of the earth stuff in that machine
Wmk2 ................misses the outback type flying in VMC
Cherokee six is a good machine for bush strips, but when you have punters in the back you may as well be flying a C185 as the nose sits that high you feel as though you're in a tail dragger.
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C206 would be the go but finding a good one can be a challenge!
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Not hard to find at all.
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I am sure the aeromill folk will help you part with some cash
A36 = 150
C210 = 150
C206 = 120
C210 = 150
C206 = 120
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A36 = 150
C210 = 150
C206 = 120
Havn't flown a 206 for a while, but the last one I did fly used to TAS at 140kts. Flown both the 210 and A36 during the last week, with the A36 making good 168ktas and the 210 winding out to 171ktas. Both have stock airframe and engines.
A36 = 150
C210 = 150
C206 = 120
Havn't flown a 206 for a while, but the last one I did fly used to TAS at 140kts. Flown both the 210 and A36 during the last week, with the A36 making good 168ktas and the 210 winding out to 171ktas. Both have stock airframe and engines.
Most A/c get around 10-15% better TAS in Aus over Winter compared to Summer!
Most A/c get around 10-15% better TAS in Aus over Winter compared to Summer!
Someone might be able to work the numbers in the pics to give us a TAS for the 210.
IAS 150kt, 9,500', QNH 1025, OAT 26°f.
IAS 152kt, 8,500', QNH 1026, OAT 35°f.
Have to say though, I was cheating. It was a cool day and I had a big load. Me, Mrs.GB (All 54kgs of it), fuel and bags. From the nanny state to Broome in 9 hours. Not to shabby.
Apologies for the thread drift.
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