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Old 4th Feb 2010, 05:56
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military call signs

Here's one for the 'older' ATCers or RAAF pilots.

The RAAF Hercules used to go by the call sign JL'x'. i.e. JLM, JLF etc
The Orions by JD'x'
The BAC111's were NLG and NLH

Does someone out there know what the HS748's went by??????
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I heard they were so slow...they didn't go by anything! ugh
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Try the Spotter's Forum....
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These aren't really 'callsigns' are they? Maybe registrations?
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..and is this a rumour?

...or news?
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Smile

Not in the last 29 years that I've been flying. They've always had a descriptive callsign. Perhaps the RAAFies could elaborate to the origin?

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Didn't they use a "VM" prefix and a pseudo-civil rego?

Pretty sure I remember the (ex RAAFie) guy who taught me to fly telling a story with something about this.

... still...
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748 Callsigns

Think they were all "JULIET VICTORS ....."

And the SP2H were XRAY DELTA .... !"
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I was a controller in Canberra from '78 to '88 and the following applied to 34 SQN aircraft:

The two HS748's were NLA and NLB
The three Falcon 20's were NLD, NLE and NLF
And the two BAC 111's were NLG and NLH

When they were flying internationally ie one of the BAC's to NZ, then they used "AUSY ----" with the aircraft "A" hull number

The 5 SQN Helo's went by the name "EAGLE ----"
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The East Sale 748s were JVs
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Naughty Tiddles said
They've always had a descriptive callsign.
I suppose he means like "Wombat or Stallion"

Descriptive indeed

The alphabetical 'rego's were released to the civil authority(mid 70's I think) as they were running out of there own rego's to allocate. The military then started using the Mission/Squadron/Task rootwords & numbers we are familiar with today.



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Devil HS748

In my days,known affectionately as the Budgie!!
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Yes. Back in the good old days, we used prefix of VM (military) as opposed to VH (civil). Domestically we would use JDx. Internationally initial call to ATC would be VM-JDx and after initial contact, it would be shortened to VDx.
In fact on some squadrons, the JD indicated the squadron and the x was normally the first letter of the captains surname. Now that's personalised
re 748's all I can remember about them is that bl00dy mongrel APU SCREAMING!
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I seem to remember them using " Hudson " or "Howler??" (I could be wrong about Howler...something like that anyway...) when they turned up here or there.....

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thanks...no def call signs
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Smile thanks bedder believeit

Thanks for that...NLA/NLB rings a bell now!
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This is the list they use now.
Not entirely correct but close.

Royal Australian Air Force RAAF Callsigns
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In the 'olden days' military aircraft were allocated radio callsigns in the blocks with the prefixes 'VL' and 'VM' as dogcharlietree indicated.

To summarise, the International Radiotelegraph Convention in Washington, USA, in 1927 produced a revised table of Nationality and Registration markings for aircraft and other radio call-signs. These recommendations were duly adopted by ICAN in June 1928.

The Commonwealth of Australia was allocated the prefixes VH, VI, VJ, VK, VL and VM. Since the Dominions and Colonies did not have a vote at ICAN until about 1929, the allocation of 'VH' was probably made arbitrarily.

These prefixes were allocated as follows:

VH - civil aircraft
VI and VJ - Coastal Radio Stations, which communicated with ships at sea and, in the early days, with aircraft
VK - Amateur Radio
VL and VM - military aircraft post WWII

You can read more at Airways Museum / Civil Aviation Historical Society - do a site search for 'registration markings of Australian aircraft'.

Down at the Museum we have the Tower logs for Avalon for about 5 years in the '60s - makes very interesting reading as all the callsigns and types of every aircraft are listed, including some very unusual visitors from overseas!

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Hudson was right for the ESL 748s, that callsign now being adopted by the KA350s. The 350s, while attached to ALG, were Beaufort.

Not Howler - one of their formation callsigns was Howlettes.
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