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Old 16th May 2009, 17:16   #61 (permalink)
 
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I'm sure that this may have been the case in the past but not surely now with guys having left and possibly more to follow. Going by what I've been told only, it seems that theres an even split of guys getting in - fijian to indo-fijian. And even naturalised citizens.

And i think there are two separate issues you mention Mr V;
1 - dis-unity with the indo-fijian; and 2 - recruitment methods. You may be right about the unity stuff though...

Would be interesting to find out the numbers of indo-fijian guys that have left FJ to move overseas for work (e.g Aust, M/E) as compared to the Fijian guys...

BJ
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Old 17th May 2009, 03:05   #62 (permalink)
 
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Basementjaxx,

Cola Tavale. According to my sources the numbers of Indo-Fijians (ex Fiji airlines) is:

Air Pacific: 1-EK, 1-QR, 1-WY, 1-CX, 3-V Australia, 1-Gulfair

Air Fiji: 1- Air India, 1-CX

Sunair: 1- Hong Kong, 1-Jet airways

Total: 12

The guys from FJ would have moved for the $'s. The guys in Air Fiji and Sunair would have obviously beem overlooked by FJ.
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Old 18th May 2009, 00:56   #63 (permalink)
 
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Any further news on Air Fiji? The CEO says that operations have been suspended only (not ceased) but theyre selling off assets. Gotta wonder bout this CEO..

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Old 18th May 2009, 01:58   #64 (permalink)
 
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nothing on fijitimes.com.fj. Given AF is partly (wholly??) owned by some mob in China..you'd think they'd channel some funds through to help them out.
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Old 18th May 2009, 04:14   #65 (permalink)
 
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I think they've figured out that the guy(s) running the show (read the CEO) is about as useful as t!t5 on a bull and no amount of money will fix this sort of incompetence. I do feel for the employees though...

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Old 18th May 2009, 06:03   #66 (permalink)
 
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yeah i know. My cousin is a capt on one of the Y12s. I think he was just biding his time before he went for Air Pac (someone mentioned requiring something like 4000 hrs or something...). anyway he's now jobless.
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Old 18th May 2009, 06:43   #67 (permalink)
 
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MR V,
its better to be in the right seat with great pay,benefits such as education,medical,all utilities ,than to stay in the left seat of a rotting 747 and have a 10% paycut. At least in the sandpit we don't have to worry about how we are going to make next months mortgage payments and having to pull out from FNPF just to pay school fees.
Besides most just dont have the guts to make the move,At least in FJ some are looked after more than others.

happy flying
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Old 18th May 2009, 09:17   #68 (permalink)
 
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"I think he was just biding his time before he went for Air Pac (someone mentioned requiring something like 4000 hrs or something...). anyway he's now jobless".

This sort of indicates that he was 'expecting' to get into Air Pac rather than 'hoping' to (just commenting on your statement rather that actuality). Hours haven't been a factors as of recent. They've taken guys with about 1500hrs - as well as those with more.

The Y12 would not have been his recent aircraft with Air Fiji right?!

"Besides most just dont have the guts to make the move,..."
Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

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Old 18th May 2009, 14:22   #69 (permalink)
 
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DatePalm,

"At least in the sandpit we don't have to worry about how we are going to make next months mortgage payments.."

How many of you have actually bought houses in the middle east?

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"Besides most just dont have the guts to make the move..."

Some guys dont want to move out of Fiji.You will someday have to go back home to Fiji.For the ones remaining in Fiji its the lifestyle they want and not inhaling sand everyday in the sandpit.
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Old 18th May 2009, 21:13   #70 (permalink)
 
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duckkie,

How is Oman Air for ATR crew? They have enough or still recruiting? I hear many are applying from Indian ATR carriers.

BJ
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Old 18th May 2009, 23:23   #71 (permalink)
 
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duckknocker

I am glad u like my name.i am also very happy for you as you will be a millionaire in fiji in just under 3.5 years.to earn '$26,000fj/month" how many hows did you have to do and how many of them were red eye specials?

"...from where I'm sitting things dont look to good in FJ 10% paycut 20% devaluation rumours of another 10% deval as datepalm said people must be finding it a bit hard making ends meet every month."

...and...

"...crime rate going thru the roof, no free media, country under dictatorship mate the list goes on."

Then why would you want to invest back in Fiji if you make comments like that???And obviously the situation in fiji doesnt bother you too much as you want to retire there.are you kinda contradicting yourself?

As one of my tavales mentioned earlier on this forum "its every man for himself"

For myself...money isnt everything.I am sure you sleep well on your 'omani rial stuffed pillow".In 3.5 years you can have a mattress made of fiji dollars!

Maybe you should have also enrolled in private school as they would have taught you to use full stops in sentences.

Taki....

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Old 19th May 2009, 03:31   #72 (permalink)
 
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unfortunately due to the current economic crisis worldwide there has been an influx of applicants from europe and asia. Right now there are a total of 200 applications sitting on the bosses desk. Oman air would love to have FJ guys here but due to having to pay for tickets back home to FJ for the whole family once a year becomes an expensive investment. The ticket price from Oman to Oz is equivalent to the ticket price from OZ to FJ. So right now there are 7 ex AP drivers here so getting more guys from FJ will be the last option. We were lucky back in 2005 there was a shortage of crew. We have 1 ex Pacific Sun driver here he should be doing his upgrade once he does his 2 years of service. Unless you have an OZ basing and left seat on ATR you might have a chance.

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Old 19th May 2009, 05:23   #73 (permalink)
 
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"So for many of us who left it was more to do with family welfare and retirement. We will be enjoying lifestyle when we retire back home in Fiji debt free"

Ducknocker, I could not agree with you more. We work to live - not live to work and whilst it is nice to have a job that you enjoy doing, and most of us in aviation do you have to maximise your earning potential whilst you can.

Having been an expatriate pilot for most of my working life I would have to agree with the career choices that you have taken. Fiji will always be there when the time comes to return and you will be able to look back on a much more memorable and financially rewarding flying career than those that have chosen to stay with the same old routine.
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Old 19th May 2009, 08:24   #74 (permalink)
 
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Hey VUTULAKI
I totally agree with ex aviator and duck knocker , its all about the money you bring home at the end of the month that will set you up for retirement be it behind burgular bars back in FIJI or anywhere else of our choice.If it means having to do a couple of redeyes a month so be it.As far as i'm concerned its no better than doing return Brisbanes and melbournes,only difference is we actually get paid for the effort.

BY the way when is FJ parking the 747's, next thing you know they will be flying the NG's to LAX.So better get current on the NG boys it may be all you gonna fly in a few years.
Giv us a call in 2020 when the 787 gets there,we will be more than happy to come and teach you boys how to fly it...

DP.

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Old 19th May 2009, 13:41   #76 (permalink)
 
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Duck...

Brotha... I take my childish comments back.There is no excuse for my 'behaviour' and I hope we can let this pass like the water under the Rewa Bridge.
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Old 19th May 2009, 13:52   #77 (permalink)
 
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no worries mate by the way I'm not the one with the crooked jaw. Why have u removed your thread up top?
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Old 19th May 2009, 14:27   #78 (permalink)
 
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reason was as per my apology.
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Old 19th May 2009, 23:22   #79 (permalink)
 
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Now that all the b!tch!ing has stopped can we have more constructive posts?

Anyone in the know have any further news about Air Fiji? I believe there are few drivers going to Pacific Sun, but what bout the others and the LAMES/AMES?

Air Fiji CEO sems to be passing the buck to the Tuvalu Govt/investors and nothing more is coming from them.

A press statement by Air Pac boss JC said recruitment was out on hold for the moment. Any idea when it will re-commmence?

BJ

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Old 20th May 2009, 01:33   #80 (permalink)
 
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Air Fiji's hangars/buildings for mortagee sale in last Saturday's paper and aircraft for tender in today's paper
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