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Old 13th Dec 2008, 20:09   #21 (permalink)
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I have a summary of the Cornish report but dont know how to hang a PDF on here
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Old 13th Dec 2008, 20:47   #22 (permalink)
 
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DD, a well versed auditor who is a very straight shooter who I personally have a great deal of respect for. He is usually engaged by various health organisations (I believe he is somewhat the leader in his field) to audit operations that conduct provision of health service related flying operations.

Away from work a thorough gentleman with whom it is a pleasure to dine, especially when the wives get together....

Tinny, if you flick it this way I can host it for you to link to.

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Old 13th Dec 2008, 22:33   #23 (permalink)
 
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DD, as OpsN said, John is an independent aviation consultant to lots of state governments with a specialty for aeromed. A great guy with a wealth of experience and some great stories to tell, just mention Caribou's to get him started! If John is making negative comments about Pearl's equipment, they'll have to sit up and listen - which by the sound of it they already have.
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Old 13th Dec 2008, 23:56   #24 (permalink)
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Either they are educated as to the safety of turbine singles (Wally, settle down, ),
I will step I on Wally's behalf! Enlighten us...

There can be no disputing the age of the Pearl fleet, they are old, as for the rest of the story, well they do need to sell papers! One could argue that for 12 million dollars per annum they are getting a bargain, it would be costing at least double that with new aircraft, even single engined ones!
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Old 14th Dec 2008, 00:10   #25 (permalink)
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Get some Caravans. cheap and reliable. even have wx radar in most of them. not as fast as a PC12 but beats walking. you could get 6 of them for 12 million.
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Old 14th Dec 2008, 00:22   #26 (permalink)
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How about a Porter/Twotter/Dornier? (delete as applicable)

See I have been paying attention!
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Old 14th Dec 2008, 01:07   #27 (permalink)
 
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Get some Caravans. cheap and reliable. even have wx radar in most of them. not as fast as a PC12 but beats walking. you could get 6 of them for 12 million.
*ducks for cover*
Isn't RFDS Qld ops already using a Van in FNQ?
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Old 14th Dec 2008, 01:33   #28 (permalink)
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HH, they would all be excellent choices...........and I wouldn't ever be out of work.
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Old 14th Dec 2008, 01:39   #29 (permalink)
 
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pressurisation

RFDS central section looked at caravans about 17 years ago. The problem is without pressurisation you have to bounce around in turbulence below the transition level. You are limited to 8-9000ft, and it's ROUGH. I remember one trip in a chieftain when the two nurses had a bucket on the floor as they worked.
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Old 14th Dec 2008, 01:46   #30 (permalink)
 
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manymak,
No Caravans for QLD Section yet. They are ordered though.

They are not going to be used for patient retrieval however, strictly a people carrier for the clinics that are performed in North Queensland.

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Old 14th Dec 2008, 02:16   #31 (permalink)
 
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Old 14th Dec 2008, 04:07   #32 (permalink)
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Now if we had American air, we could wander around 12500ft like they are allowed to over there. I spend a lot of time in that area of the atmosphere, and it is about where the majority of the big lumps tend to stop being a significant problem. The van has Ox outlets though, so it could be outfitted without a drama.
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Old 14th Dec 2008, 05:08   #33 (permalink)
 
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The Caravan would be no good for a sea level cabin which is often a requirement.

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Old 14th Dec 2008, 08:24   #34 (permalink)
 
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Jayrow

Tin,

The S76 is a Jayrow IFR machine with two IFR crew. It's primary role is for off-shore oil/gas support.
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Old 14th Dec 2008, 22:28   #35 (permalink)
 
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Not having looked at the figures of the P too closely but I'm sure the van could carry more specialists and equipment than a PC-12, not as fast but over an hour sector, it's only 15 minutes later...

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Old 14th Dec 2008, 23:14   #36 (permalink)
 
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PC12?................come on
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Old 14th Dec 2008, 23:29   #37 (permalink)
 
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People, before you get too carried away with the idea of a Caravan for aeromed work please note carefully U Dog's post about sea level cabin requirements.

Head and eye injury wounds require sea level cabin pressure, premmy babies require no more than 2,000' (and thats when they travel back from Adelaide).

The Caravan has its place in aviation but aeromedical work is not it.
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Old 15th Dec 2008, 02:16   #38 (permalink)
 
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The old Kingairs are just part of the problem the other one is finding suitable pilots with the desired experience level and retaining them!

Those Kingair's would all be up around the 20,000 to 25,000 hour mark big dollars to maintain and a lot more time in maintenance.
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Old 15th Dec 2008, 02:51   #39 (permalink)
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Lemmeesee..this might work...





Burns 111208 Cornish Report Exec Summary
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Old 15th Dec 2008, 04:43   #40 (permalink)
 
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Thanks for that Tinpis, an interesting read.

He really does slam Pearl Av's King Air's! For good reason though. An unreliable aeromedical outfit, is nearly as good as nothing at all.

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