All those that flew for Discover (f)lying on the Penguin runs
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All those that flew for Discover (f)lying on the Penguin runs
Is Sir M still around? What happened to the the operation?
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oh 'M' would still be around alright, he's one tough operator. He may not be in the flying game but he'll be in sumfin' that's for sure !
His Jap express penguin runs folded some years ago now, (poor old Doves)he went onto just training at a country strip nth of ML for a while & might have given it away entirely now, not too sure tho.
Fun days just the same, YPID, you could count on one hand the amount of rwy lights actually working !
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His Jap express penguin runs folded some years ago now, (poor old Doves)he went onto just training at a country strip nth of ML for a while & might have given it away entirely now, not too sure tho.
Fun days just the same, YPID, you could count on one hand the amount of rwy lights actually working !
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Always aspired to fly for 'Penguin Express', never made it though...
Never flew the dove to YPID for Big M but took nearly everything else down there for him. Good old DTZ and BAJ would be my favourites. Dont miss the cold nights waiting in the hangar and spilling your dinner enroute if it was bumpy. You could also count the amount of bunnys you would "nearly" hit on T/O and LND. I was always amazed that anyone could even see the runway lights they were that dim.
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ahhh you guys missed one hell of an airframe the old DH104 (Dove) It was perhaps the worst ergonomically designed plane airborne, typical pomms but boy did they know how to build a plane that still flew after years of neglect! 800 HP to convey 4 tons, stalled at 65 kts GW & once full flap was out (40deg's) you where going only one direction ...DOWN regardless of how much HP you had ! 13 POB, was that an unlucky No or what?
I remember old DTZ (c310) & BAJ (AC50), the latter I have a funny story about if you guys ever want to hear it.
I still remember old Sandy (PID owner way back then, nice guy) chasing planes down the rwy in his old XD ford wanting his ldg fee, was the funniest thing to watch!
God where's the tissues !
"HH" you missed some fun times, but that's about all mate!
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800 HP to convey 4 tons, stalled at 65 kts GW & once full flap was out (40deg's) you where going only one direction ...DOWN regardless of how much HP you had ! 13 POB, was that an unlucky No or what?I remember old DTZ (c310) & BAJ (AC50), the latter I have a funny story about if you guys ever want to hear it.
I still remember old Sandy (PID owner way back then, nice guy) chasing planes down the rwy in his old XD ford wanting his ldg fee, was the funniest thing to watch!
God where's the tissues !
"HH" you missed some fun times, but that's about all mate!
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Loved the Doves until NBM tried to kill me and my pax. Still remember changing aircraft from the Dove down to Chieftain, C310 and stopped at an Apache of all things when pax numbers dropped off one night. Interesting place, anybody know what happened to "The Rat"?
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every time I enter a toilet and find water downed soap I think of Sandy. Also has been a while since at Wallan, but is NBM still there rotting away or has it been moved. Use to love flying out of Wallan, hope urban sprawl doesnt kill it.
every time I enter a toilet and find water downed soap I think of Sandy. Also has been a while since at Wallan, but is NBM still there rotting away or has it been moved. Use to love flying out of Wallan, hope urban sprawl doesnt kill it.
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I think you will find that NBM & ABM are no longer The rats ate 'em !
I gather you saw NBM at Wallan, a real shame to see a once grand old lady derelict. I thnk if I recall that particular airframe (or it might have been ABM) was built around 1950!, might have been earlier!
'Nig' I had to laugh at the watered down soap story, yr lucky you got soap period!
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The rats ate 'em !I gather you saw NBM at Wallan, a real shame to see a once grand old lady derelict. I thnk if I recall that particular airframe (or it might have been ABM) was built around 1950!, might have been earlier!
'Nig' I had to laugh at the watered down soap story, yr lucky you got soap period!
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Sandy would never part with a dollar so the runway lights would be wired up by him, utilising tape, nails, clothes pegs-you name it. What a top guy!
He would water down ANYTHING to save money, but i guess he has a bit now.
Chasing guys in the falcon? never saw it but you put a very funny image in my head
He would water down ANYTHING to save money, but i guess he has a bit now.
Chasing guys in the falcon? never saw it but you put a very funny image in my head
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Mr Milk you should have been there when he did that, talk about angry
And he used up turned juice bottles (the ones he ratted out of the bin after we bought them & threw them away) to put over the top of the 12v tiny globes representing rwy/taxi lights!!
I recall one night in an old Seneca 2 it was so damp with a fogged up windscreen when we taxied out that all I could do was hold the torch out the storm vent window (PA34 lights where useless) to see where I was going, his taxiway lights where as bright as a burnt out candle ! I ended up doing a full circuit of the taxiway in front of the main hangar right back to where I started from 'cause all I could see was the edge of the dirt ! At least the japs thought it was normal, then again it was really !
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And he used up turned juice bottles (the ones he ratted out of the bin after we bought them & threw them away) to put over the top of the 12v tiny globes representing rwy/taxi lights!!
I recall one night in an old Seneca 2 it was so damp with a fogged up windscreen when we taxied out that all I could do was hold the torch out the storm vent window (PA34 lights where useless) to see where I was going, his taxiway lights where as bright as a burnt out candle ! I ended up doing a full circuit of the taxiway in front of the main hangar right back to where I started from 'cause all I could see was the edge of the dirt ! At least the japs thought it was normal, then again it was really !
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Sandy wouldnt rat things out of the bin surely
Is he still around? last i heard pid was gettin knocked down for mansions
Some people just think of the money all the time.
Is he still around? last i heard pid was gettin knocked down for mansions
Some people just think of the money all the time.
What a cowboy operation those penguin runs were and DCA just looked the other way. Monsieur Le Morrice rang me urgently to fly a Navajo from EN. Pax were aboard when the battery was found to be dead flat. Raced down the tarmac and met M racing up the tarmac abusing me for not starting up and get going. Told him to get nicked and find himself another idiot to fly his bomb. Think we got a battery cart from somewhere in the end and got donks running. Big Yank bloke occupied RH seat. Shortly after airborne door warning light came on and big draught. I think we may have lost a radio en route and to cap it all off the left prop feathered itself on the landing run. The Yank ordered me to get another aircraft as no way he and other pax would return on that Navajo. A C310 arrived and got bogged. Yank really spitting chips but finally got away in the 310. Then I got abused for writing the snags in the MR. Yeah - some fine operation in those days.
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obviously 'centaurus' you had one of the better days, you got off lightly mate!
Great story tnxs, loved it!
I can still remember M standing in front of the Dove/s seconds after the cabin door was closed waving his arms about suggesting why are the engines not running, get going !! When taxing out in a Dove you had about 2 or 3 brake applications on the way to the holding point b4 the air supply was too low to bring the U/C after T/off. One got quite good at assy pwr applications & rarely touched the brake lever!
I also remember after T/off one very still evening from PID once I set course for the city I never touched the steering wheel (that's what they looked like) 'till not long before touchdown, used only the rudder pedals & the elev trim wheel for control, such was the ability of the pommy flying wreck to stay aloft with little in the way of primary control manipulation
ahhhh the memories
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Great story tnxs, loved it!I can still remember M standing in front of the Dove/s seconds after the cabin door was closed waving his arms about suggesting why are the engines not running, get going !!
When taxing out in a Dove you had about 2 or 3 brake applications on the way to the holding point b4 the air supply was too low to bring the U/C after T/off. One got quite good at assy pwr applications & rarely touched the brake lever!I also remember after T/off one very still evening from PID once I set course for the city I never touched the steering wheel (that's what they looked like) 'till not long before touchdown, used only the rudder pedals & the elev trim wheel for control, such was the ability of the pommy flying wreck to stay aloft with little in the way of primary control manipulation
ahhhh the memories
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'FS' i'll go back thru a few log books & give you an exact date as to when I last flew for Sir M, shall PM you
Am lucky to know what date it is today never lone when I was last abused by 'M' !
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Am lucky to know what date it is today never lone when I was last abused by 'M' !
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I know what you mean. Final straw was copping abuse because I brought the pax back after having assymetric flap on t/o with NBM. The rat had to restrain me from thumping him.
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BTW 'FS' those dates I sent you where the last time/s I flew the Doves, I would most likely have flown other types before I got smart!
Still to his credit I did get good experience from that op & learnt a lot more than flying any RPT run !
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Still to his credit I did get good experience from that op & learnt a lot more than flying any RPT run !
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Too true, and the important thing is we survived Sir Ms "school". I can honestly say that if it wasn't for that organisation I wouldn't be so interested in safety!