Hi, I'm thinking of applying to Susi (I have about 600 hrs C208 time) but have just read this thread am having second thoughts. I notice that some of the posts are quite old though. How are things at Susi right now? Thanks guys?
Most of the guys are either misinformed, or pissy because they didnt get the job. I was one of the many that didnt get the job. Toughen the hell up.
They have a good safety record, I know a few guys that work for them. They do not make you fly anything that you are uncomfortable with. If they are flying VFR in IMC then that is the pilots choice, and its them that should be nailed. Not the Company.
To get a indonesian licence, you need a indo work permit. It is difficult, it not impossible to get one, if you are just a F/O. You are there on temp permit where you have to be flown to Singapore and back to get it renewed, but it is all paid for. And something with the way you are paid, you are techically working there.
The only complaint I have heard is that you often do not get paid on time. The pay is not as low as it is made out to be, as you get paid on time flown as well. After a certain amount of hours, you are put onto a higher payrate.
P.S. If anyone wants to make some extra money while you are there... Buy some of those vespa's, pay a grease monkey there to fix them up, shouldnt cost you anymore than $300. Import them back home, and you should make a few thousand profit after all the tax etc. Pity there is a limit to the amount you can import each year....
I posted this in the SE Asia forum and was PM'd to repost here, so here it is. I am not some disgruntled employee looking to stir the pot. I am simply stating my opinion on certain things and also stating fact about others. Here it is:
Susi can be a very fun place to work... the country is amazing and most of the people treat you like royalty. There are, however, some serious drawbacks to working there.
In my opinion, they've grown way too fast as far as fleet goes. They keep on buying airplanes but still don't have any hangars to call their own and buy parts as they need them.
The few maintenance expats they had tried hard but were just fighting a losing battle. The corruption of the country allows them to get away with slapping inspections or simply not doing them at all. The engineer in Papua wasn't even an engineer... they also simply decided to just not do the big gear inspections because it would take too much time. Salt-water atmosphere... hmmm... can anyone say gear failure?
You don't get a work permit and you don't get an Indo license... they pay off the DGAC so the expats they have there can stay there. So, your Canadian or SA or Aus. or whatever license will work just fine. You may get away with just writing one down on a napkin.
They pay is horrible for FO's... you start at 500 US a month. Captains pay is mediocre at best. Although this may depend where you are coming from.
There website says ATPL trained pilots... blah, blah, blah... all bulls**t. They claim Flight Safety trained pilots... bulls**t.
Your pay is always, always late. Most of the time you must hassle the accounting girl multiple times to get paid. They are short on cash, but the owner spends copious amounts of money on herself. She is selfish and cares very little for her employees. Her husband had never worked in the industry before starting this airline and he is CP... he avoid confrontation at all costs and will usually only communicate via text or email.
If you come from a background, like me, where aviation and safety and business is taken seriously and professionalism comes first, you will have a really hard time working here. Many, many pilots went there and left a month or even a week after seeing how they operate.
On the other hand, the flying can be great and like I already mentioned the country is beautiful. If you don't have any other choice, go there, but be prepared to leave 6 months to a year later because by then, frustration will have gotten the better of you.
Also, someone above had mentioned the owners are great people. Well, I have to say it... they are not and as far as I'm concerned, are not fit to run a lemonade stand. But that's just one man's opinion.
You don't get a work permit and you don't get an Indo license... they pay off the DGAC so the expats they have there can stay there. So, your Canadian or SA or Aus. or whatever license will work just fine. You may get away with just writing one down on a napkin
I asked Massey058 about this earlier in the thread and this is what he said;
Originally Posted by Massey058
Validations have been issued in the past. I'm not sure where the 1000 TT comes from as there is no hours limitation placed by CASR 61.75. Once the CPL check has been done a temporary certificate is issued until the actual licence (which puts the the NZ and Aussie ones to shame as its a proper passport like thing) is issued.
So which is the correct info? Do you, or don't you get an Indo license to operate there?
You might get an Indo license... highly doubtful though. There were somewhere around 45 pilots when I was there and only 4 had the license and they had all been there for 2+ years. It will take you a year for them to get you the work permit and then a lengthy process to get the license. So, depending on where you are from (your license), your country may not recognize the time. I believe the SA guys had this problem.
Massey058 isn't wrong... they just aren't telling the whole truth.
In all honesty and to put it simple, the company is a joke... but the country is nice and women are great.
You might get an Indo license... highly doubtful though.
Ok, thanks for the info mate. That pretty much confirms what I've heard as well. Oh, and how did you log F/O time in your log book? There's no column for single engine co-pilot time in our log books here .. well, not in mine anyway.
In Canada, you can log the time IF you have a PCC. I'm not sure what you would call the training they give you at Susi. Personally, I was hired as a Captain there, therefore never had to worry about it. But my first job in Canada was right seat on a Van and I never had the column either. I just put it in the dual column and made note in the comments section.
just a question for you.i have been applying for a position with susi air for the past 4 months and even rang somebody enquiring about pilot jobs.she said they were going to recruit around august but still i had no reply.if i was to apply what would be the best way to apply.heard alot of rumours about the company but at the end of the day i just want a job that will help me get on my feet again in this industry.rumours will exist forever but opportunities don't this is a hard industry to find work especially when the world economy suffers.im almost giving up myself, if there is further information needed please do let me know.thanks.