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Old 17th Apr 2007, 05:21   #1 (permalink)
 
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Exclamation Looking for JAA ATPL tutor in Sydney area

Hi,
I hope it is ok for me to place the following request here, if not apologies and delete if appropriate.
Due to work commitments i have difficulties in attending a full time course in WA for the JAA ATPL subjects, for the same reason and because i work from home i find it hard to do self study.
I am looking for someone that would be able to privately teach JAA ATPL subjects based on either Oxford's or WA Aviation college's material in Sydney.
PM me if you know of someone or if you are interested.
Many thanks,
FS
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Old 18th Apr 2007, 01:27   #2 (permalink)
 
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WAAC has troubles recruiting ground instructors... best you may get is a student who has completed them all and could probably assist u

Good luck
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Old 18th Apr 2007, 01:36   #3 (permalink)
 
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Thanks for your suggestion,
that would probably be sufficient as long as the person would be ok at teaching.
Anyone??
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Old 18th Apr 2007, 08:01   #4 (permalink)
 
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JAA require that you complete an APPROVED course of Ground training before sitting the CPL or ATPL exams. You need to be signed off by your Chief Ground Instructor before the CAA will enter you in the exams.

Are you looking for someone to help you study or perhaps study with, before attending the approved course? If your trying to avoid attending Ground school you can't unless your converting the same class of licence i.e. CPL CASA to CPL JAA or ATPL CASA to ATPL JAA.
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Old 18th Apr 2007, 11:59   #5 (permalink)
 
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Yeah thats a valid point with the JAA, however my understanding from the q is that he wanted help studying while attending WAAC as part of the modular course.
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Old 18th Apr 2007, 20:55   #6 (permalink)
 
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W1,
Thanks for your feedback, i realise that i have to be enrolled with an approved FTO to be able to sit the JAA exams, for that reason there is the correspondence courses offered by several FTOs like WAAC and Oxford.
My intention is to enrol into for example the WAAC correspondence course and be guided through it while in Sydney by a tutor.
I guess all i really need is someone that knows the JAA ATPL syllabus quite well and is able to help me through the course by going through it with me.
By having set appointments with a tutor i am probably more likely to dedicate time as it is very hard to create time while running a business and staff from home.
I hope you understand the route i am trying to take.
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Old 18th Apr 2007, 23:45   #7 (permalink)
 
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whiskey1,

So if I read your post correctly, an OZ ATPL holder can self study and then turn up and sit the JAA ATPL exams?
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Old 19th Apr 2007, 00:22   #8 (permalink)
 
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compressor stall,
an ICAO PPL with a NVFR holder can sit the 14 JAA ATPL subjects and walk out with a CPL and a frozen ATPL as long as they meet the hourly requirement and pass the JAA CPL flight test (which can also be done in WA), if you meet the hourly requirement for ATPL you will walk out with a full JAA ATPL.

The JAA CPL fits on top of the JAA ATPL in a nice way whereas the CASA CPL and ATPL do not apparently but i could be corrected on this one.

Therefore it is way easier in my view for someone aspiring to be a commercial pilot in both EU and Australia to sit the JAA subjects first and then convert that to a CASA CPL which is relatively easy as CASA recognizes overseas CPLs and ATPLs.

The JAA system makes it hard for current ICAO CPL and ATPL holders to convert their licenses, you are required to sit the 14 subjects for them to hand you a CPL or ATPL.

However I believe Qantas (and maybe others?) do not accept (for union reasons???) pilots who hold a converted CASA ATPL but I have no aspirations to work for Qantas so this does not bother me.

I just don't see the point of sitting the CASA CPL and ATPL subjects and then also having to sit another 14 JAA subjects just so I could have both pieces of paper.

Hope i answered your question.
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