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Old 9th Aug 2005, 00:55   #1 (permalink)
 
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Cool Tailwheel PPL?

Hey PPRuNe' ers

Does anyone have any experience with Ace Aviation in Masterton, and/or doing their PPL on a tailwheel?

I'm looking to start my PPL but before jumping in headfirst, I would like to know of anyone with experience of the above.

I have looked at the Wgtn Aero Club and Kapiti (and the references to both on this site). However, there is not much information on either of them - and they dont fly tailwheel, and many people have advised that Wgtn Aero will cost more simply because its a very busy airport.

Friends have told me that a tailwheel PPL will make one a better pilot, as you have to learn better ground handling and landing skills. Any thoughts on this one (the guys advising me were RAF QFI's, so I figure they know something about the subject)?

Look forward to hearing any comments. Feel free to PM me.

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Old 9th Aug 2005, 01:46   #2 (permalink)
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Tin did all his training to PPL in tailwheels.
It made him good at ..er...flying tailwheels.


And it was 3 pounds 6 shillings an hour
 
Old 9th Aug 2005, 03:31   #3 (permalink)
 
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This little piggy did all Ab Initio in Citabrias, and some of the PPL navs too.

All things being equal learning from the outset in tailwheelers should make one a better pilot. Not having done so doesn't make anyone less capable - good instruction (which should be everyone's right) will teach all the good habits anyway.

I suppose the things that everyone should do, one HAS to do in a tailwheeler, even the docile ones like Cubs and Citabrias.

I wouldn't do it any other way ..... summer evenings, wheeler landings on 10 at Camden ..... aaahhhgg sigh.
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Old 9th Aug 2005, 03:45   #4 (permalink)
 
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I wanted to do mine in a Decathlon many years ago, alas it was only insured for RPPL (remember those days?) only.

If you have a good instructor from the start you should learn well, once you have the PPL hop into the tailwheel for an endorsement. I think the trick is learn at the school you are going to get the t/w endo with and let them know from the outset you will be doing the t/w.

I did my enzed ppl at Kapati and they were good, that was a long time back though.
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Old 9th Aug 2005, 09:00   #5 (permalink)
 
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Grrr

Hey there Argo,


Kapiti Aeroclub has a Super Cub online. The Cub even has an integrated tape/radio in the comms. Brand new engine. I’m keen to do a rating on it in the future.

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Old 9th Aug 2005, 11:19   #6 (permalink)
 
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Argo,

I did not, wish I had though.

Trick is finding an instructor with a useful level of experience.

You might be able to dust off tinpis for 3 pound 6........
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Old 9th Aug 2005, 11:41   #7 (permalink)
 
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Many thanks for all the replies. I didnt realise that Kapiti has a Super Cub. I'll look into this.

By the by, why do you wish you had done your PPL on a tailwheel?

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Old 10th Aug 2005, 01:06   #8 (permalink)
 
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I would reccomend Ace aviation. Not that I have much experience with them but I hear that Kerry Conner is very good and I will be doing some flying there over the next few days so I could fill you in after that..
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Old 10th Aug 2005, 12:18   #9 (permalink)
 
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Depends where you are going.

50 odd hours tail time would have meant not scaring the be-jesus out of myself, the instructor, the windsock etc starting an ag rating.

If you are looking to operate tail draggers after training, I would certainly recommend it.
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Old 10th Aug 2005, 22:25   #10 (permalink)
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I learned in Cubs and Tiger Moths.
If you can find a 90HP Cub over there and someone to train you go for it.
Tin would do it for 3pounds 6 shillings.
 
Old 11th Aug 2005, 09:27   #11 (permalink)
 
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anybody know of any tailwheel aircraft in the south island (NZ)available for conversion training? I think Timaru and South Otago have a Cub each, any others anybody know of?

any chipmunks out there?

cheers for any help...

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Old 15th Aug 2005, 21:58   #12 (permalink)
 
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Hey PPRuNe'ers

Many thanks for all your replies.

I'm going with Ace Aviation. Pretty damned impressed with them, having flown with them. They have a Cub and Tiger Moth in which to do PPL training, and Harvard which you eventually convert on post-PPL. As the school only does Tailwheel PPL's and works very closely with the owners of the Moth, Chippie and Harvard, it is a well worn path to converting onto one or all of these aircraft (if one is interested - which I am).

Fantastic.

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