Help! Moving to USA

[ghost7]

HI Everyone,

Hope someone Can answer My question or give me any advice ,

I'm 38 years old moving to US in the near future with my family , we have a green card and I have an FAA ATP ME A320 type rating license , currnetly I'm an IP or TRI on A320 with almost 10000hr of experience (700hr on B737, 9300hr on A320 which 4500 PIC and 1000hr as IP:Instructor Pilot)

what will be my chances to get hired by any company?

Thanks

[galaxy flyer]

You’re a shoe-in at a regional; might be thought too qualified for legacies. Majors like Spirit would be interested. Do you have a 4-year degree?. Without one, definitely hard to get the call at a legacy. Remember, here you WILL start at the bottom of the seniority list.

[ghost7]

Hi Galaxy
Thanks for your reply,
I don't have a 4-year degree, I have a high school diploma.
Starting at the bottom of the seniority list :you mean as A First officer ?, if SO how much time to get upgraded at a Regional ?

thanks

[777-200LR]

Upgrade times at Regionals vary depending on which ones. Can be as little as 18 months, but I sure hope you have some cash stashed away because $35-45/hr isn’t going to be easy with you and your family.

I was in the same shoes as yourself about two years ago and decided against it. Been flying for an Asian carrier and commute home instead.

[galaxy flyer]

Seniority is everything here. No such thing as DEC and upgrades depend on upward movement on the list. You’ll start at the bottom, least liked base in lowest paying plane. A HS diploma will keep your app in “uninterested” pile at most carriers here. Exceptions might be ULCC or regionals and maybe Kallita.

[ghost7]

thank you everyone for the reply ,

I don't have too much choice , except to move to USA and start with Low cost carriers or regional , I thought about commuting but I can't keep my wife alone with 2 baby, I will try to save some money to live for the next 2 or 3 years , in mean while I'll do my best to get the 4-year degree and try to get a job at a legacy .

[flyboyike]

Where exactly are you moving to, if you don't mind my asking?

[flyboyike]

GF, with all due respect, perhaps these sorts of queries are best answered by people who are actually currently working for airlines and/or are involved with recruitment for same.

Just a thought.

You could, however, hook him up on one of y'all's A340s, no?

[bafanguy]

With your training background, you might at least take a look at this. Wouldn't be a flying gig but...just a thought:

Delta Global Services Pilot Training Division is dedicated to providing superior pilot training services by a highly skilled professional workforce. Pilot Instructors are responsible for instructing pilots in flight procedures and techniques and preparing them for validations and evaluations. Apply online at Airline Applications

[ghost7]

I'm moving to Orlando , maybe in 6 month I'm not sure about the exact period , but if I'll find a job in any other state ,I'll move.

[galaxy flyer]

Why would you think I have A340s? And, did I offer anything that wasn’t true? Name me a US carrier offering DEC to those w/o a thousand hours of 121 time or a legacy regularly interviewing pilots without a college degree.

[bafanguy]

Spirit is worth looking at. A degree is only listed as "preferred" (as is the A320 rating). While your competition may have degrees, do they have the A320 rating and all your check & training experience ?:

https://re12.ultipro.com/spi1000/job...7BF78782572B27

[paokara]

Originally Posted by ghost7

I'm moving to Orlando , maybe in 6 month I'm not sure about the exact period , but if I'll find a job in any other state ,I'll move.

I say Spirit or JetBlue will be you best job goal for now, MCO and FLL bases, driving to work
2-4 year upgrade there
then work on the 4 year degree and by 44 get on with the big Airlines (delta, American , united, SWA, FedEx , ups )
...it will be a 4 to 5 million retirement when you are 65

[ghost7]

thank you everyone,

Now I'm still under contract with one of the middle-east company that end by Oct 2018, but the situation here not so clear , there are too many changes, at anytime they can stop our contracts, this is why I'm planing for a job in the next few months, and already decided with my familly to move to USA ,but I have to wait untill end of contract to have end of service benefits that will help me start a new life.
I'm not really interested by big Aircrafts or cargo job, I will be happy to start at a regional.

[havick]

If that’s the case then goto an American Airlines wholly owned regional that has a flow through to mainline (degree or no degree).

I’m an immigrant from Australia on a green card and flying for one of them.

That being said with your background, I agree with the previous comments of going to Kalitta doing cargo, though I’ve been told that Kalitta requires citizenship in order to gain a security clearance for their DoD contracts.

PM me if you want to know more.

[flyboyike]

Originally Posted by button push ignored

Wishful thinking!

It’s not that easy for a first generation immigrant, to just waltz into a job at a legacy carrier.

You're kidding, right?

[highroadtochina]

Green Card immigrant

6 years ago I came to the US as a Green Card Holder. This is my experience.
FO salaries are low compared to what we are used to in the ME, Africa, EU or China.
Here is the big thing. Besides some major immigration hurdles AFTER arriving in the US (like Social Security numbers, drivers, renting) you are going to run into problems as a direct entry captain. So instead of me trying to type out a manuscript, please call me. I have answers and suggestions because it is all so painfully fresh to me.

[paokara]

Originally Posted by button push ignored

Wishful thinking!

It’s not that easy for a first generation immigrant, to just waltz into a job at a legacy carrier.

I think he would be better off at a cargo, charter or supplemental carrier, and spend his time working on the next generation of his family, by getting them all a degree and a Commercial/Instrument/Multi-Engine at minimum age.

Wrong again
Many including myself are from Europe and flying for a Legacy for years now!!
However we have a Bachelors degree and had **** load of PIC from previous jobs

[paokara]

Originally Posted by button push ignored

How many newly arrived green card holders without a four year degree have been hired by Delta, American, United, FedEx or UPS?
I bet not many.
So, no I'm not kidding.

The suggestion was for him to get the 4 year while flying for JB or Spirit and yes many non degree holders at those 2

Read first what I suggested to him
Is English your first language? Sorry but it's my 3rd language in case you did not understand my suggestion to him and I do fly for a legacy for years now!

[flyboyike]

Originally Posted by button push ignored

How many newly arrived green card holders without a four year degree have been hired by Delta, American, United, FedEx or UPS?
I bet not many.
So, no I'm not kidding.

That's not what you said originally. You made a general statement about "first-generation" immigrants, which would include naturalized citizens (like myself, for instance). There are plenty of those flying for legacies, so your statement was at the very least incorrect, if not outright defamatory (you accused legacy HR departments of discrimination based on national origin).

You also said nothing about a degree in your original statement. There are only two "legacy" carriers where a four-year degree is absolute requirement, and those are Delta and Alaska. Others will accept a two-year degree. This is regardless of citizenship, so your post was misguided in that regard as well.

Now, to be fair, it's not so easy for ANYONE to, as you so eloquently put it, to "just waltz into a job at a legacy", regardless of nationality.