The imminent death of US aviation
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Just flew with an FO who had recently talked to AA HR.
They told him that in 2007 AA had 13,000 qualified resumes on file.
Now, in 2017, they had 3000 qualified resumes on file.
Elsewhere, I read that AA plans on hiring 1000 pilots this year, more in 2018, and more than that in 2019.
They told him that in 2007 AA had 13,000 qualified resumes on file.
Now, in 2017, they had 3000 qualified resumes on file.
Elsewhere, I read that AA plans on hiring 1000 pilots this year, more in 2018, and more than that in 2019.
Just flew with an FO who had recently talked to AA HR.
They told him that in 2007 AA had 13,000 qualified resumes on file.
Now, in 2017, they had 3000 qualified resumes on file.
Elsewhere, I read that AA plans on hiring 1000 pilots this year, more in 2018, and more than that in 2019.
They told him that in 2007 AA had 13,000 qualified resumes on file.
Now, in 2017, they had 3000 qualified resumes on file.
Elsewhere, I read that AA plans on hiring 1000 pilots this year, more in 2018, and more than that in 2019.
Convention internet wisdom is that the frequently-mentioned 14,000 apps any particular airline is alleged to have on file are actually the same 14,000 on file at DL, UA, AA, SW, UPS and FE.
We'll never know.
I predict no empty seat will remain unfilled to the point financial damage to an airline occurs.
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Delta has over 100 RJs during in the desert they are making lease payments on.
Cargo pilot (FedEx or UPS... He didn't say) said his own HR told him that they would run out of qualified applicants in about 2019.
Cargo pilot (FedEx or UPS... He didn't say) said his own HR told him that they would run out of qualified applicants in about 2019.
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To be clear, this isn't intended as a rant against the degree requirement, specifically. It's just a useful example of the "requirements" in the Major airline hiring process which are not requirements in any real sense, but artificially skews the perception of what it means when an HR dweeb at FedEx says that they have XXX "qualified" applicants.
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Right. RJs. Those are the airplanes which Delta farms out to their regional partners. While the regional have made improvements recently, the pay and quality of life is still, for the most part, abysmal. Most of the pay numbers you hear tossed about include things like "hiring bonuses" which make the first years look more attractive, but don't constitute meaningful improvements to the pay scale across a career.
When Delta starts parking mainline aircraft, intended to be operated by Delta pilots, due to a lack of Delta pilots on the Delta seniority list, then there's a shortage. Until then, parking RJ's just means that there's a shortage of pilots willing to fly RJs for the crap wages and conditions that regionals offer.
This article about the coming pilot shortage...from 1989. Remarkably similar to 2017:
"The shortage, most apparent in other countries, is still a few years away in the United States, aviation experts say." [Is "...a few years..." almost 30 ?]
Pilots Scarce, Airlines See 30-Year-Olds as Captains - NYTimes.com
"The shortage, most apparent in other countries, is still a few years away in the United States, aviation experts say." [Is "...a few years..." almost 30 ?]
Pilots Scarce, Airlines See 30-Year-Olds as Captains - NYTimes.com