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Old 5th Jun 2015, 21:58
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FAA ATPL validity and Instrument Rating

Hello Good day

I would like to have information about my FAA ATP licens, i did the training and the checkride last january 31th 2014 i am typed rated in Boeing 757/767, i currently fly for a non american airline Boeing 757/767 with an ICAO CPL, i know that the FAA ATP does not expire, and acording to FAA regulation i need 6 approach a holding and radial tracks to been current. I do a proficiency check in my airlines every 6 month and do all this stuff in the real airplane.

My question is My IR in my ATP is current and if it not what should i need to do to make it current?


(c) Instrument experience. Except as provided in paragraph (e) of this section, a person may act as pilot in command under IFR or weather conditions less than the minimums prescribed for VFR only if:

(1) Use of an airplane, powered-lift, helicopter, or airship for maintaining instrument experience. Within the 6 calendar months preceding the month of the flight, that person performed and logged at least the following tasks and iterations in an airplane, powered-lift, helicopter, or airship, as appropriate, for the instrument rating privileges to be maintained in actual weather conditions, or under simulated conditions using a view-limiting device that involves having performed the following--

(i) Six instrument approaches.
(ii) Holding procedures and tasks.

(iii) Intercepting and tracking courses through the use of navigational electronic systems.


(2) Use of a flight simulator or flight training device for maintaining instrument experience. Within the 6 calendar months preceding the month of the flight, that person performed and logged at least the following tasks and iterations in a flight simulator or flight training device, provided the flight simulator or flight training device represents the category of aircraft for the instrument rating privileges to be maintained and involves having performed the following--

(i) Six instrument approaches.
(ii) Holding procedures and tasks.

(iii) Intercepting and tracking courses through the use of navigational electronic systems.


(3) Use of an aviation training device for maintaining instrument experience. Within the 2 calendar months preceding the month of the flight, that person performed and logged at least the following tasks, iterations, and time in an aviation training device and has performed the following--

(i) Three hours of instrument experience.
(ii) Holding procedures and tasks.

(iii) Six instrument approaches.

(iv) Two unusual attitude recoveries while in a descending, Vne airspeed condition and two unusual attitude recoveries while in an ascending, stall speed condition.

(v) Interception and tracking courses through the use of navigational electronic systems.


(4) Combination of completing instrument experience in an aircraft and a flight simulator, flight training device, and aviation training device. A person who elects to complete the instrument experience with a combination of an aircraft, flight simulator or flight training device, and aviation training device must have performed and logged the following within the 6 calendar months preceding the month of the flight--

(i) Instrument experience in an airplane, powered-lift, helicopter, or airship, as appropriate, for the instrument rating privileges to be maintained, performed in actual weather conditions, or under simulated weather conditions while using a view-limiting device, on the following instrument currency tasks:

(A) Instrument approaches.
(B) Holding procedures and tasks.

(C) Interception and tracking courses through the use of navigational electronic systems.


(ii) Instrument experience in a flight simulator or flight training device that represents the category of aircraft for the instrument rating privileges to be maintained and involves performing at least the following tasks--

(A) Instrument approaches.
(B) Holding procedures and tasks.

(C) Interception and tracking courses through the use of navigational electronic systems.


(iii) Instrument experience in an aviation training device that represents the category of aircraft for the instrument rating privileges to be maintained and involves performing at least the following tasks--

(A) Six instrument approaches.
(B) Holding procedures and tasks.

(C) Interception and tracking courses through the use of navigational electronic systems.

(5) Combination of completing instrument experience in a flight simulator or flight training device, and an aviation training device. A person who elects to complete the instrument experience with a combination of a flight simulator, flight training device, and aviation training device must have performed the following within the 6 calendar months preceding the month of the flight--

(i) Instrument recency experience in a flight simulator or flight training device that represents the category of aircraft for the instrument rating privileges to be maintained and involves having performed the following tasks:

(A) Six instrument approaches.
(B) Holding procedures and tasks.

(C) Interception and tracking courses through the use of navigational electronic systems.


(ii) Three hours of instrument experience in an aviation training device that represents the category of aircraft for the instrument rating privileges to be maintained and involves performing at least the following tasks--

(A) Six instrument approaches.
(B) Holding procedures and tasks.

(C) Interception and tracking courses through the use of navigational electronic systems.

(D) Two unusual attitude recoveries while in a descending, Vne airspeed condition and two unusual attitude recoveries while in an ascending, stall speed condition.

(6) Maintaining instrument recent experience in a glider.

(i) Within the 6 calendar months preceding the month of the flight, that person must have performed and logged at least the following instrument currency tasks, iterations, and flight time, and the instrument currency must have been performed in actual weather conditions or under simulated weather conditions--

(A) One hour of instrument flight time in a glider or in a single engine airplane using a view-limiting device while performing interception and tracking courses through the use of navigation electronic systems.
(B) Two hours of instrument flight time in a glider or a single engine airplane with the use of a view-limiting device while performing straight glides, turns to specific headings, steep turns, flight at various airspeeds, navigation, and slow flight and stalls.


(ii) Before a pilot is allowed to carry a passenger in a glider under IFR or in weather conditions less than the minimums prescribed for VFR, that pilot must--

(A) Have logged and performed 2 hours of instrument flight time in a glider within the 6 calendar months preceding the month of the flight.
(B) Use a view-limiting-device while practicing performance maneuvers, performance airspeeds, navigation, slow flight, and stalls.

(d) Instrument proficiency check. Except as provided in paragraph (e) of this section, a person who has failed to meet the instrument experience requirements of paragraph (c) for more than six calendar months may reestablish instrument currency only by completing an instrument proficiency check. The instrument proficiency check must consist of the areas of operation and instrument tasks required in the instrument rating practical test standards.

(1) The instrument proficiency check must be--

(i) In an aircraft that is appropriate to the aircraft category;
(ii) For other than a glider, in a flight simulator or flight training device that is representative of the aircraft category; or

(iii) For a glider, in a single-engine airplane or a glider.


(2) The instrument proficiency check must be given by--

(i) An examiner;
(ii) A person authorized by the U.S. Armed Forces to conduct instrument flight tests, provided the person being tested is a member of the U.S. Armed Forces;

(iii) A company check pilot who is authorized to conduct instrument flight tests under part 121, 125, or 135 of this chapter or subpart K of part 91 of this chapter, and provided that both the check pilot and the pilot being tested are employees of that operator or fractional ownership program manager, as applicable;

(iv) An authorized instructor; or

(v) A person approved by the Administrator to conduct instrument practical tests.
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acording to FAA regulation i need 6 approach a holding and radial tracks to been current. I do a proficiency check in my airlines every 6 month and do all this stuff in the real airplane.

My question is My IR in my ATP is current and if it not what should i need to do to make it current?
Well, I'd say yes you are current, since you comply with § 61.57 (c/1) IFR currency requirements (which I'm not going to repeat here). You need to make the appropriate entires in your logbook according to § 61.51 (g/3). If it's done in a sim § 61.51 (g/4) the logbook must be signed by an authorized instructor, but since you using the real plane, no signature is required.

PART 61.51 (g/3)
eCFR ? Code of Federal Regulations

PART 61.57 (c/1)
http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/retrieve...#se14.2.61_157
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Thanks my friend
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Have you flown 6 approaches in the last 6 months and held in the airplane? Or have you flown 6 approaches and held in the sim? Have you made logbook entry saying this? Either way you are good to go. The tracking requirement is a waste of ink because unless all your flights are radar vectors to ASR or PAR approaches you will track a course. Oddly enough 61.(c)(4) which allows you to combine events flown in an airplane and events performed in a sim does not say how many approaches you must log in the last 6 months. It may just be an oversight on the FAA's part. I would suggest you have a total of six approaches logged either in a sim or real airplane along with the holding from your PC.
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FAA ATPL validity period VS medical

Hi,

i currently fly for a Canadian operator and I have a Canadian ATPL and a FAA ATPL. I was considering not renewing my FAA medical because there’s no need right now but I would like to know if I’ m going to have to do exams/course/testing again when I renew it.

Is there a limit in time or whenever you renew the medical, the license is valid again?

if you have references that would be great.

thanks

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The FAA ATPL (indeed, all FAA pilot certificates) never expires, so does not need to be renewed. It is not linked to the medical.
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