All of the above is correct. There are two additional steps you will need to complete before you start training. First, the FAA will have to verify your licenses with your CAA. The FAA says it can take 45-90 days to complete this verification but I've heard it normally can be done in a month. Secondly our friends at the TSA will have to do a background check on you. Since you are getting an A320 type rating you will be training at a FAR Part 142 school. All the 142 schools I know see this all the time and will be able to walk you through the steps required.
If you can I have one or two other things I need to confirm. When I do the ATP theory, must I have already got my licence valided by the FAA, or is there anything else I must present in order to sit the test? (In JAA land I had to sit a course with a recognised school but as far as I can understand in FAA land I can do it all self study and just turn up to the exam)
Secondly if I am to do my ATP flight test on the same flight as my A320 type rating, this is a multi crew aircraft so does that mean I have to do some single crew work in the test?
I believe the results of the license verification only have to be completed by the time of the checkride.
One thing that will come up is if you do the ATP ride in an A320 it will be limited to A320s only. You will not do steep turns and stalls during an A320 ride so the FAA thinks you haven't done a complete ATP ride. You would have to do another ATP ride in a non fly by wire plane to have the restriction removed.
Ok, thanks. My intention is to move to China and convert my ATP and rating in order to fly an A320, so having it restricted to this aircraft, as far as I am aware should not be a problem.
I have not heard the term "PIC certificate" before and there is is not a separate certificate for PICs given by the FAA. The FAA does require an ATP to be PIC of a large aircraft in airline operations. Some ATP type ratings are issued with restrictions. The most common is to limit circling approaches to "VFR ONLY." Most US airlines do not perform circling approaches so they do not training for them. So the type ratings issued to most airline pilots in the US in the last ten or fifteen years have a restriction limiting circling approaches to "VFR ONLY." To remove the restriction they must have training on circling approaches and perform a circling approach on a checkride.
To add an A320 type rating to your ATP you would have to go to a training center operating under part 142 of the FAA regulations that does A320 training. Most 142 schools issue unrestricted types because they include circling approaches in their training.
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Has anyone lately gone through the process of adding a SIC type done abroad into their FAA ATP license?
If yes, then I'd appreciate some insights on a few questions:
1. Is it enough that the last PC was done within the preceding 12 months? 2. Does the FAA require any min. number of hours in the actual acft? If yes, then what kind of recency are they requiring? 3. On the 8710 Form, is the section "Instructor's Recommendations" the only column to be filled by your airline's official? 4. What if your airline doesn't exist anymore? Would a signature (on the 8710) and original training records from the actual initial training provider be enough? 5. What if you are not able to get anyone to sign the 8710?
In order to obtain a full FAA ATP + A330 endorsement without restriction you need to undertake the course on the left hand seat and perform circling app. very easy simulator. For all guys with ICAO Licenses i humbly recommend to get the FAA ATP without restrictions, even if you are usually flying as SIC in your countries. Most of the worldwide operators specially in Asia and Middle East request "clean" licenses.
I did a very short type based on the A320, was very easy. Contact Pan Am Academy. Highly recommended, fast and professionals.
Myself and a friend are looking at going to the USA later this year to do our FAA ATP written and check ride. We would appreciate any advice on which places would be the best value for money and also which places are trustworthy. We would prefer the west coast but we are not limited to that.
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A note that many foreign pilots may not be aware of:
On 3 Aug 2013, all -121 (Delta, Alaska, American Eagle, SkyWest, Miami Air, Pace, etc. etc.) airline pilots will need an ATP to fly the plane.
Specifically, ALL pilots, both the Captain and the First Officer will need full U.S. ATP licenses to fly any -121 airplane. This law had about a 5 year time delay, so there is no grandfathering. If you are a -121 First Officer, without an ATP, you will not be flying after 2 Aug 2013, for your airline, anymore.
Also, the U.S. does not have a PIC ATP and an SIC ATP, like most of the rest of the world does. The U.S. also does not have a "Frozen ATPL". You will need the full ATP, that currently requires a minimum of 1500 hours total time, plus a bunch of other requirements, before you can set foot in the right seat of any -121 U.S. airline.
Currently the -121 First Officer can fly with just a Commercial License and an Instrument Rating. Only the Captain currently requires the ATP.
