If you did the training in the US then all you need to do is take the paperwork with a signed 8710 and a logbook endorsement to a FSDO and they will give you the type on your FAA license. If your training was done overseas then you need a letter from the training department of your airline with an 8710 and a logbook endorsement and take it to a FSDO. Someone in the training department or the chief pilot has to sign the letter, the endorsment and 8710. I hope this helps. VF
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I believe that varigflier is detailing the steps for an FAA Second-in-Command Type Rating.
To my knowledge, there is no straight forward conversion of a Foreign Type Rating to an unrestricted FAA Type Rating (you have to do the training program) unless it is a conversion from a Transport Canada licence to a FAA certificate (largely just an administrative step) under the provisions of a recently-signed agreement between the two authorities.
I know people who took the online course above and liked it. There are other online courses as well.
I've heard that the question bank may be changed radically sometime soon ...
I believe you have to do the whole CFI training and checkride in the states. No conversion for the CFI license.
Agreed. With a commercial/inst. (FAA issued) you can actually do it fairly fast just about anywhere in the States. Overall requirements are in 14CFR61.183 - 187; you need 15 hrs. PIC in the type you use on the checkride. Training is to proficiency ... and I'd do the online TSA module, too (easy).
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Not really, it's just covered in the FAR's. We have a treaty with Canada that makes the process (basic license conversion, not CFI) relatively easy; otherwise you have to do it "honestly". The writtens are very straightforward and there's plenty of training available. Good luck and have fun!
Last edited by Rotorhead1026; 15th Jan 2009 at 12:26.
I have a quick question. I validated my foreign commercial license to a FAA PPL (61.75) I then did the written exams to validate my instrument rating from the foreign license (61.75 d) Followed by commercial written and check ride etc... however, i did not do a instrument approach on my check ride.
Apparently this was not required since the instrument rating was already issued. Between the FSDO losing my paperwork, resubmitting paperwork, they have finally responded after about 5 months, saying a instrument check ride was required.
Do any of you guys carry knowledge on this? I don't mind doing check rides.. But this sets me back completing the ATP, and I am possibly losing a job over this. If only we knew about this earlier. Both the FSDO and DE said it was not required. Where in the law does it state this requirement?
they have finally responded after about 5 months, saying a instrument check ride was required.
I'm not an expert, but since no one has chimed in ...
First, I assume we're dealing with SEL. The commercial ride for ME requires some instrument work for your IR to be valid, at least for ME flying.
Yes, someone with an original FAA license would have their instrument rating "upgraded". I am not so sure about one issued as yours was. Your private / IR was issued on the basis of a foreign license. Your commercial was based on the "usual" FAR's. It could well be that the IR doesn't carry over. It also could be a horrible screwup - one that might take weeks to correct. I've called OKE City before about license issues and have found them friendly and helpful - where help is possible. That might be a good bet. If not, go through channels using the DPE and the FSDO (might be easier to just take the checkride). Good luck!
Ok, I have read other messsages but I have a question to clarify my situation.
Until a couple of weeks ago I had the following:
FAA Commercial Pilot, multi, instrument with an SIC B737 type rating.
Then obtained an unrestricted JAA ATPL with a B737 type rating.
Most recently I got an FAA ATP ride in conjunction with a B757/B767 type rating.
Here's what I would like to do. I would like to convert (if that is the correct term) my JAA B737 type to my FAA ATP B737 type (unrestricted).
First I was told sure I could do this by the FAA. Went to the FSDO and was told no I could not. The explanation was rather strange. According to what I have heard this would be more possible had I only had a foreign license without having an FAA license as well! Makes no sense that a foreign pilot would be treated better than their own citizen!
One last question, is it true the other way around is possible? In other words if I have a B757/B767 type, which I now do, that I can apply to have it added to my JAA license? If this is the case, it makes absolutely no sense that the conversion would work one way and not the other!
There's no conversion between JAA and FAA at all. The only thing that transfers is logged flight experience. I'm not sure what the FSDO told you at first. In any case once you have FAA certification you have to add ratings in the "normal" fashion - in your case a type rating ride. At least I've never heard of "upgrading" a(n) SIC type rating on the basis of another type rating (767) on your license - which might be what confused the FSDO guy. It'll be the same for getting your JAA 757/767 type; you'll have to go throught the "regular" JAA process. There's an agreement between FAA and Canada (see above) but that doesn't help you.
Now one option on the JAA side is to find an FAA inspector or DPE who can sit in on your next PC and possibly issue the rating based on that check.
I hope this helps. Really would have liked to have heard your conversations with FAA. Maybe someone more knowledgeable will chime in.
Under FAR 61.75 one can get a private pilot license based on a JAA license, but it doesn't apply to you since you are already FAA certified.
I am an indian citizen with DGCA Commercial pilot licence...I intend to convert to a FAA cpl and do my CFI training in the states.please advise me on the conversion procedures, what papers i need to answer to convert to MEL(instrument) and the books i should refer to answer my conversion exams.thanks in advance....