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Old 18th Dec 2012, 20:51   #1 (permalink)
 
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Who's gonne fly the Norwegian Long Haul

Heard some rumours that the Norwegian Pilots are bypassed as far as the new 787 operation?
Anyone?
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Old 19th Dec 2012, 08:45   #2 (permalink)
 
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Try reading the existing NAS threads, on here & terms & endearments.
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Old 29th Dec 2012, 14:13   #3 (permalink)
 
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I think it is the first time I have heard that a civilized company are not using their own pilots
What is up with this deal?
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Old 29th Dec 2012, 15:18   #4 (permalink)
 
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Who told you they are civilized?
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The broker RISWORTH is preparing a presentation on 9th in Singapore.

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Old 19th Jan 2013, 13:53   #6 (permalink)
 
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So the 787 is grounded!That gives me two questions to wonder about:Are they now gonne fly the 767 or A-330 until the nightmareliner is back in the sky?
And will the origional Pilots from Norwegian still accept to be left out of the long haul production?Anyone with "inside" info??
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Old 19th Jan 2013, 15:06   #7 (permalink)
 
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AFAIK trying to force the company to employ existing NAS permanent crew in NAS Long-Haul on T's&C's any different from other contractors, is not on the NPF (Union)'s radar. It appears that they have given up on that battle even before it started, which, as it is on a different AOC (containing - for the moment 1 738) is probably prudent. There are other more pressing fish to fry, the decimation of the pensions, and how the company will propose to utilise the growing proportion of Contractors from Springtime onwards being the main two.

Existing NAS pilots are free to take a "leave of absence" for up to two years to "live the dream", & come back into "Core Norwegian" with no loss of seniority after this time, so far. . . very quiet.

The Norwegian CAA have just this week informed NAS that they will not accept the employment of Thai CC for the operation.

Inbetween this, & the aircrafts ongoing woes, I doubt they are as optimistic in the short term as they would wish the world to believe.

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Old 14th Feb 2013, 20:08   #8 (permalink)
 
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With the 787 grounded I guess this is not an issue anymore.
Understand they will wet- lease an Airbus-330 until further?
Maybe SAS can fly for them......
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Old 15th Feb 2013, 04:46   #9 (permalink)
 
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SAS don't have any surplus 330 or 340, they are adding one more 340 to the fleet in March/April to cope with their own network for the summer of 2013.
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Old 19th Feb 2013, 10:16   #10 (permalink)
 
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reiseselskap

og plutselig var Norwegian Longhaul et reiseselskap i stedet for et flyselskap?

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Old 20th Feb 2013, 09:03   #11 (permalink)
 
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og plutselig var Norwegian Longhaul et reiseselskap i stedet for et flyselskap?
Nei?

Har du AOC så er du flyselskap. Du kan godt lease inn kapasitet, wet eller dry, uten å miste den statusen.

Mener du likeledes at SAS er et reiseselskap når de selger strekninger som opereres av Blue1, f.eks.?
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Old 21st Feb 2013, 13:44   #12 (permalink)
 
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Korrekt, men..

Teori og praksis kan være to forskjellige ting? Skal de benytte egen AOC ifm. evt. leasede flyginger?
Om ikke, hva er da den praktiske forskjellen mellom konseptet til Flynonstop og Norwegian Longhaul frem til de evt. kommer i gang med egne fly?
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Old 22nd Feb 2013, 06:27   #13 (permalink)
 
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Norwegian Long Haul har jo en AOC med tilhørede organisasjon, rettigheter og plikter. Det er den vesentlige forskjellen.
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Old 22nd Feb 2013, 17:59   #14 (permalink)
 
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ok

Men blir det bare en formalitet? eller vil AOCen og organisasjonen ha noen form for aktivitet, rettigheter eller plikter, som kunder eller andre kan/vil nyte godt av så lenge de kun leier inn fly fra flyselskap med annen AOC til å utføre 100% av flygingene?
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Hva er historien med Jet tid wet lease til CPH for sommeren med norsk? Ryktet om mer 737-300 å delta NAS flåte
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Old 27th Feb 2013, 14:52   #16 (permalink)
 
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Og da er lavprisselskapet Norwegian i full gang med å utdanne thai'ene i kabinen. DY's instruktører har startet opplæringen og kursingen i BKK nå - så alt tyder på at Kjos har en plan B, etter at han fikk nei av regjeringen til å la disse thai'ene (ikke-EØS-borgere) fly på norsk AOC inn / ut av Norge.
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Old 27th Feb 2013, 22:19   #17 (permalink)
 
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Hvor har du dette fra?
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Old 3rd Mar 2013, 15:08   #18 (permalink)
 
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What destinations do Norwegian Long Haul plan to fly?

If most flights will depart OSL and/or ARN, I just don't understand the thing with BKK-base. If the network will be out of BKK I understand it better, but then Kjos need to get an AOC from the Thai CAA.

I am very confused. Can someone tell me how it's really going to be. Does anyone know? Are all employees (to be) getting an apartment in Bangkok, and have sent in an application for a resident's permit in Thailand?

Rishworth doesn't say much, just a lot of .

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Old 4th Mar 2013, 08:29   #19 (permalink)
 
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It was planned have the 787 registered in a separate company with a Norwegian AOC. They then got the cold hand from the Norwegian authorities when they wanted to use Thai cabin crew on that AOC. On top of that the 787 are now delayed.

I think very few people know what will actually happen. Norwegian have already sold a lot of tickets which is only making things worse. Maybe that's why they are so quiet. There are rumors of them using 767's which will probably disappoint a lot of customers. But who will fly them?
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and have sent in an application for a resident's permit in Thailand?
There is no such thing a a residents permit (other than a Permanent Resident and the rules for that are unbelievably complex), just a work permit and the relevant visa, both renewed annually. It is impossible to get the work permit from outside of the country and without a job within the country.
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