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Old 8th Mar 2023, 21:58
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USAF Authorises Hand & Neck Tattoos

https://www.stripes.com/branches/air...s-9319649.html

With the ‘modern American in mind,’ Air Force OKs neck and hand tattoos
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I'll await the usual Pprune screaming instead of measured responses, but how about applicants coming up to armed forces appearance standards rather than the armed forces coming down to theirs?
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And? This IS the 21stC FFS!
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I'll await the usual Pprune screaming instead of measured responses, but how about applicants coming up to armed forces appearance standards rather than the armed forces coming down to theirs?
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The armed forces are a reflection of the society they protect - when that stops you finish up with a set of S American generals
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The armed forces are a reflection of the society they protect - when that stops you finish up with a set of S American generals
Asturia, you are Mike Wigston & I claim my $10 😂
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The armed forces are a reflection of the society they protect.
Indeed.

If tattoos are culturally acceptable there is no reason not to accept those who bear them. If common then refusing to accept them means turning away potentially excellent recruits.

https://www.rokdrop.net/2017/01/10/n...servicemember/



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Driver airframe will still need L & R on the gloves though.
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I have already commented on this in the Ukraine thread, there was a short film of Ukrainians training in the UK and one of the instructors was a young Canadian female office with flower tattoos on her neck and I stated then how refreshing it was to see that old rule had gone. Offensive items, yes I agree shouldn't be visible, but the rest why not, we are no longer living in the middle ages.

Incidentally, I remember watching a programme ages ago about cosmetic tattooists and what they do is spectacular, they re-colour items like burns, scars or birthmarks to make them look like normal skin, heck they even add nipples on women that have sadly had to have a mastectomy to give them back a sense of normality..
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It is a shame only hawk and shar will fit on my knuckles............ still i could replace mild and bitter......... with euro fighter
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The armed forces are a reflection of the society they protect - when that stops you finish up with a set of S American generals
....and, for the avoidance of doubt, the society represented in Post #6 is New Zealand.

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One problem, often overlooked, is that tattoos can sometimes hide blood vessels. This can possibly hinder the medics or at least make their job more difficult.
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Diminishing birth rates mean a diminishing pool to draw your military from and that means you have to adapt to maintain ones military strength and if a visible Tattoo is the least that can happen to prevent one serving ones country then it is a sad day, there are far worse things out there.
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I think the Ukrainian military are proving that tattoos and beards aren't a hindrance to operational effectiveness.
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The armed forces are a reflection of the society they protect - when that stops you finish up with a set of S American generals
That requirement is as nonsensical as United’s requirement that its flight crews reflect its passengers.

Absent a draft, compromises must be made to hit recruiting goals. A recent DoD study found that 77% of young Americans (age 17-24) would not qualify for military service without a waiver due to being overweight, using drugs, or having mental and physical health problems.

Fat with tats is the future.
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
The armed forces are a reflection of the society they protect - when that stops you finish up with a set of S American generals
Oh I think that this is absolutely true, if not then the armed forces become an elite protecting their social equals and looking down on those who can't 'cut it', much as the meat packing glitterati in South America did. Or you might as well employ mercenaries to do your bidding, but what penalties could you put in place for non compliance?

The comparison with a commercial airline is a bit of a red herring and really doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
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Indeed.

If tattoos are culturally acceptable there is no reason not to accept those who bear them. If common then refusing to accept them means turning away potentially excellent recruits.

https://www.rokdrop.net/2017/01/10/n...servicemember/


Are there many Maori in the USA? Most neck and head tattoos in the USA are from membership to gangs.
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Are there many Maori in the USA? Most neck and head tattoos in the USA are from membership to gangs.
And if they are gang related then any potential criminal records would be disqualification from Military Service
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I don't like tattoos, but it's not my body. In the modern environment we have to accept that many young people will have them (including members of my own family) and it would be churlish to turn down potentially valuable members of the services for what is now seen as cosmetically acceptable
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Just for them to be aware that most spas and bathing establishments in Japan for example bar entrance to anyone with a tattoo. There's usually a large warning sign in the entrance, put there to discourage members of certain gangs, but to be applied equally to all in a spirit of inclusiveness.

Hand or neck tattoos would of course be the most difficult to hide on (attempted) entry. Close family experiences noted.
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Like Davef68 personally I'm not in favour of any tatoos outside those cultures, where they are important

I've given up commenting in the UK as they are now a fashion accessory - and a very large number of people have them. Can't get the genii back into the bottle I'm afraid
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